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Genesis of an Anti-Semitic State
« on: August 15, 2007, 01:30:13 PM »
Genesis of an Anti-Semitic State

By David Bedein
FrontPageMagazine.com | 8/15/2007

Imagine, if you would, that a nascent nation state, somewhere in the world, was in formation that had taken on these features:


Its new constitution would not allow for any juridical status for Judaism.

Jews would not even be allowed to live in the country.

Selling land to a Jew would be a capital crime.

The new school system would inculcate children to make war on the Jews.
 
Those who murdered Jews would become the national heroes of the new country.

Their designated head of state earned his Ph.D. on the thesis that 6 million Jews were not really murdered during World War II, and that the Zionists were actually allies of the Nazis.

The reaction to such a news item would be an outcry from Jewish groups who monitor and react to anti-Semitism as a matter of policy. Yet, we have seen no outcry from these groups in the case of the proposed Palestinian state, even though it possesses all six qualities listed above.

Others have expressed their deep concern about the anti-Semitism of the nascent Palestinian entity. Four years ago, this reporter covered a briefing provided for a visiting U.S. congressional delegation provided by the Vatican representative to Israel. Archbishop Pietro Sambi warned U.S. lawmakers that the new Palestinian Authority's approved state constitution, funded by USAID, provided no juridical status for any religion other than Islam in the emerging Palestinian Arab entity.

The Papal Nuncio also warned that the Palestinian Authority (PA) had adopted Shariah law. Islamic nations that have adopted Shariah have mandated the absolute supremacy of Muslims over non-Muslims as matter of law.

Archbishop Sambi provided our news agency with the PA constitution with the hope that Jewish groups that monitor anti-Semitism would object to the U.S.-funded Palestinian state constitution. It never happened.

Archbishop Sambi initiated a study of the new PA textbooks, which the Vatican determined to be anti-Semitic in nature. And so, at the recommendation of Archbishop Sambi, the Italian government pulled its money out of the Palestinian Ministry of Education's textbook project.

This past May, Dr. Arnon Groiss, a researcher at the Center for Monitoring the Impact of Peace, made a presentation for European diplomats in Brussels showing how PA textbooks, instead of educating for peace with Israel, promote the violent struggle for liberation against Israel. From these textbooks, Groiss showed that the PA curriculum teaches the following fundamentals:

Jews are foreigners and have no rights in Palestine.

The Jews have a dubious and even murderous character.
 
Israel is an illegitimate usurper that occupied Palestine in 1948 and 1967.

Israel is the source of all kinds of evil done to the Palestinians.

Peace with Israel based on reconciliation is not to be sought.

A violent struggle for liberation is encouraged instead.

The exact area to be liberated is never restricted to the West Bank and Gaza alone.

Jihad and martyrdom are glorified, and terrorist activities against Israel are implicitly encouraged.

The West is imperialist, aspires to world hegemony, directs a cultural attack against Islam and supports Israel.

The list of accusations against Israel appearing in the new Palestinian Authority schoolbooks includes more than 25 items, including the following:

Israel contributes to Palestinian social ills and family violence.

Israel causes the increase of drug abuse cases in Palestinian society.

Israel pollutes the Palestinian environment.

Israel usurps Muslim and Christian holy places.

Israel strives to obliterate the Palestinian national identity and heritage.



This reporter asked spokespeople of the Israeli prime minister, foreign minister and defense minister if they would ask a new Palestinian state to cancel its anti-Semitic curriculum. The spokespeople for the Israeli government provided a clear answer: "This is not on the agenda." The spokesman for Israel Prime Minister Ehud Olmert asked for the question in writing three weeks ago, confirmed that it was received and will not respond.

Questions were then posed to Jewish organizations who monitor anti-Semitism: the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, Bnai Brith, the Anti Defamation League, the Religious Action Center of the UAHC, the World Jewish Congress, the Institute for Public Affairs of the OU and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

Each group was asked if they would request that the American and Israeli governments condition aid to the Palestinian Authority on the nullification of the anti-Semitic constitution and curriculum of the Palestinian Authority.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center responded. Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Associate Director of the Wiesenthal Center, wrote: "You have raised an issue that was supposedly addressed during through the Oslo process and unfortunately no Israeli government or US administration held the Palestinian leadership accountable. The current questions you raised are important enough that we will urge that the Global Forum on Antisemitism take it up..."

Archbishop Sambi, now the Papal Nuncio in Washington, who has not been afraid to taken a clear stand on the issue of official Palestinian anti-semitism, should be asked to join that forum. As for the other groups, they should break their silence on this critical issue.


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David Bedein is the bureau chief of the Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International Press Center in Jerusalem.

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Re: Genesis of an Anti-Semitic State
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 01:56:15 PM »
<<Its new constitution would not allow for any juridical status for Judaism.>>

Notice how, further on down in the same article, the writer admits that the new constitution won't allow for any juridical status for ANY religion except Islam.  Doesn't sound specifically anti-Semitic to me.

<<Jews would not even be allowed to live in the country.>>

The article does not quote any particular provision of the draft constitution that says so.

<<<<Selling land to a Jew would be a capital crime.>>

Given that the Jewish National Fund ("JNF") was established for the sole purpose of purchasing Palestinian land, turfing out the Arab tenants and populating it with Jews, all of which it has done very well since it was founded, I actually don't think the article goes far enough.  I think it should be a capital crime to knowingly sell land to ANYONE who acts directly or indirectly for the JNF, whether they're Jewish or not.  It's the only way to guarantee Palestinian sovereignty.

<<The new school system would inculcate children to make war on the Jews.>>

I think they'd call it liberating Occupied Palestine.
 
<<Those who murdered Jews would become the national heroes of the new country.>>

I think they'd call it attacking the occupation forces and the illegal settlers in an effort to end a 40-year military occupation of their own lands.

<<Their designated head of state earned his Ph.D. on the thesis that 6 million Jews were not really murdered during World War II, and that the Zionists were actually allies of the Nazis.>>

At least their head of state HAS a Ph. D. - - YOURS, if he had one, (first, he'd have to learn to read and write) would probably have earned it on the thesis "How Evil-Doers Built Massive Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq But Shipped Them to Planet Zirkon Before Our Valiant Troops Could Find Them."

NOPE.  Don't sound like an anti-Semitic state to me.  Wonder why some guy who works for Israel Resource News Agency of Beit Agron Press Center in Jerusalem would want us to think the Palestinians are planning an "anti-Semitic" state?   Hmmmm, tough one.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 05:36:31 PM »
What a surprise. Mickey never meet a terrorist he didn't like.

Amazing.

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 07:52:51 PM »
<<What a surprise. Mickey never meet a terrorist he didn't like.>>

Wrong again, Rich.  I don't like George W. Bush at all.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 07:57:47 PM »
<<What a surprise. Mickey never meet a terrorist he didn't like.>>

Wrong again, Rich.  I don't like George W. Bush at all.

But those AlQeada folk...............BIG time fans.  Especially when they're killing those low hanging fruit, aka the U.S. military (not to mention the civilian men, women, & children who actually are helping out the U.S. led coalition)  Likes them alot from what I can see & read
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 08:08:39 PM »
<<But those AlQeada folk...............BIG time fans. >>

Guess you missed my reaction to BT's publication of their torture manual.  Kinda hostile for a real fan.

<< Especially when they're killing those low hanging fruit, aka the U.S. military >>

That was harsh.  I don't think anyone should be KILLED just for invading someone else's country.  Shit, I mean, invasions happen, you know.  I think they should get a ticket, like a parking ticket.  "You have invaded my homeland.  Please note that you have been fined $40 U.S. dollars.  If you wish to dispute this ticket you may do so at the Night Invasion Court, 3400 Al Rashid Street, any time between 6:00 to 9:00 PM.  Otherwise please deposit $40 cheque or money order in the drop box.  Do not deposit cash."

<<(not to mention the civilian men, women, & children who actually are helping out the U.S. led coalition) >>

Oh, yeah.  The collaborators and traitors.  They get shot and blown up.  Geeze, what a surprise.  Like who cares, eh?  Why don't those Resistance Fighters just lighten up, man?   Like, Go with the Flow, ya know?

<<Likes them alot from what I can see & read>>

Well they sure as hell aren't taking any shit from Americans who come to invade their homes, kill their families and steal their oil, that's for God-damn sure.

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 08:14:30 PM »
<<But those AlQeada folk...............BIG time fans. >>

Guess you missed my reaction to BT's publication of their torture manual.  Kinda hostile for a real fan.

Just watching the rhetoric, and how often your pumping up the oppositon with what great balls they all apparently have.  And yea, I saw the reaction.  Hard to get a grasp of your sincerity on it when you keep claiming that, and much worse by the U.S. military, minus the widespread evidence or manual


<<(not to mention the civilian men, women, & children who actually are helping out the U.S. led coalition) >>

Oh, yeah.  The collaborators and traitors.  They get shot and blown up. 

Ahh, back to civilians who dare fight for deomcracy as collaborators and traitors garbage, again.  Gotta love the consistency


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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 08:32:07 PM »
<<ust watching the rhetoric, and how often your pumping up the oppositon with what great balls they all apparently have. >>

Well, I was just contrasting them with the chickenshit U.S. military who'd rather bomb a civilian house and its occupants to shit than take on a handful of militants inside it mano-a-mano.

<< And yea, I saw the reaction.  Hard to get a grasp of your sincerity on it  . . . >>

That's your problem.  Most people are kind of repulsed when they read a manual on the best way to torture somebody with a blowtorch or the correct way to remove an eyeball.  But I guess if you're an admirer of the U.S. military, your natural reaction would probably be, Wow!  hope our guys are up to those standards!

<< . . . when you keep claiming that, and much worse by the U.S. military, minus the widespread evidence or manual>>

Well, of course there's no manual.  That's why the left had to fabricate those Abu Ghraib pictures.



<<Ahh, back to civilians who dare fight for deomcracy as collaborators and traitors garbage, again.  >>

Actually you referred to them in your post as "civilian men, women, & children who actually are helping out the U.S. led coalition."  Your original description, word-for-word, BTW.

 See, in my dictionary, people who help out an occupying army that invaded their homeland are collaborators and  traitors.   That's what the definition of collaborators and traitor is.  But I forgot I was talking to someone who operates from his very own unique dictionary.  Someone for whom "all" doesn't really mean "all" and "victim" doesn't really mean "victim" so I guess I shouldn't be very surprised to find out that "collaborator" doesn't mean "collaborator" and "traitor" doesn't mean "traitor."  OK sirs, I give up.  You win.  Congratulations.  I'll never be able to match your redefining skills.


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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 03:04:48 AM »
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Most people are kind of repulsed when they read a manual on the best way to torture somebody with a blowtorch or the correct way to remove an eyeball.  But I guess if you're an admirer of the U.S. military, your natural reaction would probably be, Wow!  hope our guys are up to those standards!


<<Well, of course there's no manual.  That's why the left had to fabricate those Abu Ghraib pictures.





Is there or isn't there some sort of US Army instruction for useing a blowtourch or torture and why do you think that there is one?

It is clear to every member of the military that they can get put up in Levenworth for several years for mistreating a prisoner, if there was an orer or a manual I imaginethat the solder would want to produce it for his defense at courts martial.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 12:14:41 PM »
<<Is there or isn't there some sort of US Army instruction for useing a blowtourch or torture and why do you think that there is one?>>

There were torture manuals, for example at the School of the Americas, which trained Latin American torturers, but I think after some public outcry, the Army made a great show of getting rid of them.  I'm sure they're still around, or new ones have been written, but the Army might have been able to switch to the less efficient but politically safer means of verbal transmission of knowledge.

<<It is clear to every member of the military that they can get put up in Levenworth for several years for mistreating a prisoner, if there was an orer or a manual I imaginethat the solder would want to produce it for his defense at courts martial.>>

Well, if they still have them, I'm sure they're under strict controls and they never leave the building.  Probably the Army would have learned by now to cover their tracks pretty well.  Also they are now outsourcing their torture to secret prisons around the world.  So I think they learn from their past mistakes, like everyone else, and cover up a lot better now.