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>>Pre Vatican II that was a definite possibility. But I don't remember you being old enough to have been in Catholic school before that.<<Oh no, I'm post Vatican II. I attended first grade in 1968. Actually, they were the Sisters of St. Joseph and they did things like punch you in the head with their fists, banged your head against the black board, beat you with metal rulers, fish hooked you, beat you with metal pointers, jabbed you in the back with a skeleton key ... shall I go on?