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Academic Intimidation
« on: December 29, 2007, 09:30:12 PM »
Academic Intimidation
By Thomas Sowell
Tuesday, December 18, 2007

There is an article in the current issue of The Chronicle of Higher Education -- the trade publication of the academic world -- about professors being physically intimidated by their students.

"Most of us dread physical confrontation," the author says. "And so these aggressive, and even dangerous, students get passed along, learning that intimidation and implied threats will get them what they want in life."

This professor has been advised, at more than one college, not to let students know where he lives, not to give out his home phone number and to keep his home phone number from being listed.

This is a very different academic world from the one in which I began teaching back in 1962. Over the years, I saw it change before my eyes.

During my first year of teaching, at Douglass College in New Jersey, I was one of the few faculty members who did not invite students to his home. In fact, I was asked by a colleague why I didn't.

"My home is a bachelor apartment" I said, "and that is not the place to invite the young women I am teaching."

His response was: "How did you get to be such an old fogy at such a young age?"

How did we get from there to where professors are being advised to not even have their phone numbers listed?

The answer to that question has implications not only for the academic world but for the society at large and for international relations.

It happened because people who ran colleges and universities were too squeamish to use the power they had, and relied instead on clever evasions to avoid confrontations. They were, as the British say, too clever by half.

"Negotiations" and "flexibility" were considered to be the more sophisticated alternative to confrontation.

Most campuses across the country bought that approach -- and it failed repeatedly on campus after campus, when caving in on one set of student demands led only to new and bigger demands.

The academic world has never fully recovered. Many congratulated themselves on the restoration of "peace" on campus in the 1970s. Almost always, it was the peace of surrender.

In order to appease campus radicals, all sorts of new ideologically oriented courses, programs and departments were created, with an emphasis on teaching victimhood and resentments, often hiring people whose scholarly credentials were meager or even non-existent.

Such courses, programs, and departments are still with us in the 21st century -- not because no one recognizes their intellectual deficiencies but because no one dares to try to get rid of them.

One of the rare exceptions to academic cave-ins around the country during the 1960s was the University of Chicago. When students there seized an administration building, dozens of them were suspended or expelled. That put an end to that.

There is not the slightest reason why academic institutions with far more applicants than they can accept have to put up with disruptions, violence or intimidation. Every student they expel can be replaced immediately by someone on the waiting list.

In case of more serious trouble, they can call in the police. President Nathan Pusey of Harvard did that in 1969, when students there seized an administration building and began releasing confidential information from faculty personnel files to the media.

The Harvard faculty were outraged -- at Pusey. To call the cops onto the sacred soil of Harvard Yard was too much.

It just wasn't politically correct. And, as a later president of Harvard, Lawrence Summers, could tell you, being politically correct can be the difference between remaining president of Harvard and having to give up the office.

Authority in general, and physical force in particular, are anathema to many among the intelligentsia, academic or otherwise. They can always think of some "third way" to avoid hard choices, whether on campus, in society, or among nations.

Moreover, they have little or no interest in the actual track record of those third ways. Having to learn to live with intimidation by their own students is one of the consequences.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2007/12/18/academic_intimidation?page=full&comments=true
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 12:56:59 AM »
true faculty had more power then ,but that doesn`t mean they are safe to be around students.
note how nothing is mentioned of the school helping faculty if students get abusive.
and I don`t think very many colleges has a shortage of student to the point they can`t expell them.



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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 12:10:43 PM »
Both my daughter and her husband are university professors and I've never heard them mention this problem. I remember once, however, at University of Toronto, there was a complaint addressed against a male professor who "leered" at a female student in the athletic centre pool.  "Leered" not just once but on several different days.  Now the student was afraid to swim in the pool any more, so there was some kind of grievance filed, hearings were held, the Toronto Star covered the whole thing . . . I honestly don't recall how all this turned out, but I do recall thinking what a humungous waste of time and energy.

My conclusion is that people will get away with what they are allowed to get away with.  Of course there is abuse, and students need some kind of institutional recourse, but the officers in charge have to exercise common sense and fairness.  I think there are some entrenched courses that obviously shouldn't be a part of the curriculum, but as long as they remain options, what's the real harm?  Employers now are smart enough to dig deeper than the diploma, and can tell the difference between credits for political science, French literature or modern Latin American history on the one hand and gender wars, vaginal politics or playing with your inner child on the other.

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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 12:28:00 PM »
In thirty-two years, I have had only one problem with a student involving anything personal of mine. She used my phone number, written on my syllabus, to charge collect calls to her boyfriend.efused to pay these, and wrote the Public Service Commission, and they forced Ma Bell to reveal the caller and callee, and I then recognized her name and reported her.

Her father was a phone company employee. Both he and the student called and apologized. I was not the only professor she did this to, but I was the first to catch her.


I have had a few students holler at me because of their rotten grades. 25% of the grade is based on oral performance in class, and if they are not present when I call roll, I tell them that they will be marked absent until they tell me they are present. Many forget this. I also don't call on them if they did not answer the roll, or do not have a book or some reasonable facsimile in front of them, because the questions are from the book. So a lot of consistently late students fail because of inattendance or booklessness. I pass out grades every two weeks, so this is not any sort of secret to those who attend class.

I don't understand why they pay $1800 to take the class, and then refuse to buy a used textbook for $50 or so, or Xerox the pages I am covering in class, but that is what some of them do. So I flunk their lazy butts, and they take it over again from one of the incompetent adjuncts the university hires for $1760 a class next semester and learn nothing.

Apparently, there are some professors that will pass them if they miss most classes and have a sad enough story. This is the "Queen for a Day" school of student evaluation.
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 03:18:04 PM »
In thirty-two years, I have had only one problem with a student involving anything personal of mine. She used my phone number, written on my syllabus, to charge collect calls to her boyfriend.efused to pay these, and wrote the Public Service Commission, and they forced Ma Bell to reveal the caller and callee, and I then recognized her name and reported her.

Her father was a phone company employee. Both he and the student called and apologized. I was not the only professor she did this to, but I was the first to catch her.


I have had a few students holler at me because of their rotten grades. 25% of the grade is based on oral performance in class, and if they are not present when I call roll, I tell them that they will be marked absent until they tell me they are present. Many forget this. I also don't call on them if they did not answer the roll, or do not have a book or some reasonable facsimile in front of them, because the questions are from the book. So a lot of consistently late students fail because of inattendance or booklessness. I pass out grades every two weeks, so this is not any sort of secret to those who attend class.

I don't understand why they pay $1800 to take the class, and then refuse to buy a used textbook for $50 or so, or Xerox the pages I am covering in class, but that is what some of them do. So I flunk their lazy butts, and they take it over again from one of the incompetent adjuncts the university hires for $1760 a class next semester and learn nothing.

Apparently, there are some professors that will pass them if they miss most classes and have a sad enough story. This is the "Queen for a Day" school of student evaluation.

At my institution we receive "student success reports" each semester. These list the number of A's, B's, etc. I give out including the number of I's, F's, drops, etc. If we fail too many or too many drop our class, we are "talked to". Why? The college's budget is determined by the head, e.g. the number of students enrolled. The theory goes that if we flunk too many, then they will be pissed off and not re-register. A recent study actually confirms this. It tracked many of these and found out that they do indeed withdraw and take courses at one of the two local "technical colleges" here in town. These "technical colleges" have a reputation of being easy (they are too). The Adminsitration cannot actually tell you to "lighten up" due to Accreditation rules, but they can make comments like were directed at me several years ago: "Well, you know we are not Harvard." I got the message. Even with tenure, they can make your life a living hell by scheduling you weird classes at weird times, not give you any summer classes which means you do not get paid then and so on. You learn to walk a fine line.
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 04:42:14 PM »
American elementary and secondary education is far below Western European, Canadian, Korean and Japanese standards.
Now the morons are trying to take over the colleges and universities, and we, the professors are the only ones who can stop them.
Let them go to DeVry, they are not really students, anyway.


A friend at a culinary college, trying to teach chemistry to future cooks, was told "Nobody fails and Johnson and Wales". In a year, he quit.

I fail those that don't learn. Screw the administration.
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 05:03:04 PM »
American elementary and secondary education is far below Western European, Canadian, Korean and Japanese standards.

The Middle East as well. I'm schocked at how much more advanced their elementary and secondary education is.

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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 06:08:22 PM »
In thirty-two years, I have had only one problem with a student involving anything personal of mine. She used my phone number, written on my syllabus, to charge collect calls to her boyfriend.efused to pay these, and wrote the Public Service Commission, and they forced Ma Bell to reveal the caller and callee, and I then recognized her name and reported her.

Her father was a phone company employee. Both he and the student called and apologized. I was not the only professor she did this to, but I was the first to catch her.


I have had a few students holler at me because of their rotten grades. 25% of the grade is based on oral performance in class, and if they are not present when I call roll, I tell them that they will be marked absent until they tell me they are present. Many forget this. I also don't call on them if they did not answer the roll, or do not have a book or some reasonable facsimile in front of them, because the questions are from the book. So a lot of consistently late students fail because of inattendance or booklessness. I pass out grades every two weeks, so this is not any sort of secret to those who attend class.

I don't understand why they pay $1800 to take the class, and then refuse to buy a used textbook for $50 or so, or Xerox the pages I am covering in class, but that is what some of them do. So I flunk their lazy butts, and they take it over again from one of the incompetent adjuncts the university hires for $1760 a class next semester and learn nothing.

Apparently, there are some professors that will pass them if they miss most classes and have a sad enough story. This is the "Queen for a Day" school of student evaluation.



I once took a course in French.

The teacher was from Canada, and on the first day, spent some time decrying American teaching.  She railed on about pickawinner tests, and scoffed at taking role:  "You can come to my class on just two days, the midterm and final tests, for all I care."

The next time I came to class, I had missed the midterm by one day.  I went to her and told her, and she asked:  "Who the hell are you?"
 
I assured her I was on the list. 

She told me to come to her alcove the next day and take the midterm test, but she did not show up.  I called upon her the next day, and she still did not show up.  When she did show up, she said:  "You can have your choice . . . either take the test home, don't use your book, or you can base your whole grade on the final.  I agreed to the latter.

During final week, my last test was at noon on Friday, and the French final was on Monday at noon. 

I crammed Friday night, Saturday, and some review on Sunday.   Twenty-eight chapters.

I got the second highest grade in the class, an A-.


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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 07:05:45 PM »

I'm schocked at how much more advanced their elementary and secondary education is.


I'm not. Whatever else one might say about their societies, they still expect school to prepare children for later life. We in the U.S. (at least this is the impression I have of the U.S. system) seem to think elementary school is for protecting childhood and secondary school is some sort of social event to keep students from feeling too out of place.

I don't know about Japan or Korea, but in Western Europe, as I understand the situation, most countries (if not all) have school competition, and the money they spend per student is attached to the student, not the school. Here in the U.S. we shiver in our collective boots at the very idea that competition between schools could ever be even tried.
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007, 07:19:11 PM »
American elementary and secondary education is far below Western European, Canadian, Korean and Japanese standards.

The Middle East as well. I'm schocked at how much more advanced their elementary and secondary education is.

And then compare how much $$$ we pay, per student, in taxes for this "accomplishment".  And what is it that we hear so often to fix our Public Education nightmare?....we need to "invest more for the children" ----> more $$$$
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Re: Academic Intimidation
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007, 09:47:42 PM »
American elementary and secondary education is far below Western European, Canadian, Korean and Japanese standards.

The Middle East as well. I'm shocked at how much more advanced their elementary and secondary education is.

And then compare how much $$$ we pay, per student, in taxes for this "accomplishment".  And what is it that we hear so often to fix our Public Education nightmare?....we need to "invest more for the children" ----> more $$$$

I disagree. Studies show there is not necessarily a direct correlation between expenditures and achievement. We need to address how we define and implement the educational process.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2007, 10:34:28 PM »
A friend at a culinary college, trying to teach chemistry to future cooks, was told "Nobody fails and Johnson and Wales". In a year, he quit.

Johnson and Wales in Charlotte?
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 11:51:40 PM »
No, Johnson & Wales in Miami
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