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Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« on: December 28, 2007, 08:52:56 PM »
Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
By Alexis Madrigal Email 12.28.07 | 12:00 AM
A nasal spray of a key brain hormone cures sleepiness in sleep-deprived monkeys. With no apparent side effects, the hormone might be a promising sleep-replacement drug.
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In what sounds like a dream for millions of tired coffee drinkers, Darpa-funded scientists might have found a drug that will eliminate sleepiness.

A nasal spray containing a naturally occurring brain hormone called orexin A reversed the effects of sleep deprivation in monkeys, allowing them to perform like well-rested monkeys on cognitive tests. The discovery's first application will probably be in treatment of the severe sleep disorder narcolepsy.

The treatment is "a totally new route for increasing arousal, and the new study shows it to be relatively benign," said Jerome Siegel, a professor of psychiatry at UCLA and a co-author of the paper. "It reduces sleepiness without causing edginess."

Orexin A is a promising candidate to become a "sleep replacement" drug. For decades, stimulants have been used to combat sleepiness, but they can be addictive and often have side effects, including raising blood pressure or causing mood swings. The military, for example, administers amphetamines to pilots flying long distances, and has funded research into new drugs like the stimulant modafinil (.pdf) and orexin A in an effort to help troops stay awake with the fewest side effects.

The monkeys were deprived of sleep for 30 to 36 hours and then given either orexin A or a saline placebo before taking standard cognitive tests. The monkeys given orexin A in a nasal spray scored about the same as alert monkeys, while the saline-control group was severely impaired.

The study, published in the Dec. 26 edition of The Journal of Neuroscience, found orexin A not only restored monkeys' cognitive abilities but made their brains look "awake" in PET scans.

Siegel said that orexin A is unique in that it only had an impact on sleepy monkeys, not alert ones, and that it is "specific in reversing the effects of sleepiness" without other impacts on the brain.

Such a product could be widely desired by the more than 70 percent of Americans who the National Sleep Foundation estimates get less than the generally recommended eight hours of sleep per night (.pdf).

The research follows the discovery by Siegel that the absence of orexin A appears to cause narcolepsy. That finding pointed to a major role for the peptide's absence in causing sleepiness. It stood to reason that if the deficit of orexin A makes people sleepy, adding it back into the brain would reduce the effects, said Siegel.

"What we've been doing so far is increasing arousal without dealing with the underlying problem," he said. "If the underlying deficit is a loss of orexin, and it clearly is, then the best treatment would be orexin."

Dr. Michael Twery, director of the National Center on Sleep Disorders Research, said that while research into drugs for sleepiness is "very interesting," he cautioned that the long-term consequences of not sleeping were not well-known.

Both Twery and Siegel noted that it is unclear whether or not treating the brain chemistry behind sleepiness would alleviate the other problems associated with sleep deprivation.

"New research indicates that not getting enough sleep is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease and metabolic disorders," said Twery.

Still, Siegel said that Americans already recognize that sleepiness is a problem and have long treated it with a variety of stimulants.

"We have to realize that we are already living in a society where we are already self-medicating with caffeine," he said.

He also said that modafinil, which is marketed as Provigil by Cephalon and Alertec in Canada, has become widely used by healthy individuals for managing sleepiness.

"We have these other precedents, and it's not clear that you can't use orexin A temporarily to reduce sleep," said Siegel. "On the other hand, you'd have to be a fool to advocate taking this and reducing sleep as much as possible."

Sleep advocates probably won't have to worry about orexin A reaching drugstore shelves for many years. Any commercial treatment using the substance would need approval from the Food and Drug Administration, which can take more than a decade.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/sleep_deprivation

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 09:34:24 PM »
We have these other precedents, and it's not clear that you can't use orexin A temporarily to reduce sleep," said Siegel. "On the other hand, you'd have to be a fool to advocate taking this and reducing sleep as much as possible."

uhm
we are fools
it`s pretty much certain that when this drug gets to the shelves, jobs will encourage it`s use
ex. programmers
they`re people who have the ability to sleep very little (ami) unfortunately they just don`t understand why other need sleep
and businesses strangely enough has never see a need for sleep in people.
this drug will be abused
and even if it has dangerous side effects
it`ll still be used.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 01:36:32 PM »
And take away THE DREAM state!
Uggg! ::)

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 01:58:07 PM »
We have these other precedents, and it's not clear that you can't use orexin A temporarily to reduce sleep," said Siegel. "On the other hand, you'd have to be a fool to advocate taking this and reducing sleep as much as possible."

uhm
we are fools
it`s pretty much certain that when this drug gets to the shelves, jobs will encourage it`s use
ex. programmers
they`re people who have the ability to sleep very little (ami) unfortunately they just don`t understand why other need sleep
and businesses strangely enough has never see a need for sleep in people.
this drug will be abused
and even if it has dangerous side effects
it`ll still be used.


I can't imagine that it will ever hit the shelves in an over-the-counter package.

And it seems likely that employment regulations will prohibit employers from forcing it.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 11:42:08 PM »
And it seems likely that employment regulations will prohibit employers from forcing it.

true,but doubtful any will privately discourage it
ex. apple computers
steve jobs prided hinself for making his programmers works 72+ hours.
the very reason his present contract does not allow him to be incharge of any person now.
just because it against the law does not mean it not done.
it simply not enforced.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 08:56:48 AM »
just because it against the law does not mean it not done.

There's a law against working 72+ hours? News to me. Maybe in some industries (like pilots and truck drivers) but I always thought most of those were union rules, not laws.
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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 06:01:29 PM »
There's a law against working 72+ hours? News to me. Maybe in some industries (like pilots and truck drivers) but I always thought most of those were union rules, not laws.

It's news to me also.  I work in a union job (Ironworkers Local) and it is not uncommon for me to work 80-95 hours per week.  It's hard on the body and mind, but I've got to admit, I do love those paychecks.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 09:43:38 PM »
There's a law against working 72+ hours? News to me. Maybe in some industries (like pilots and truck drivers) but I always thought most of those were union rules, not laws.

It's news to me also.  I work in a union job (Ironworkers Local) and it is not uncommon for me to work 80-95 hours per week.  It's hard on the body and mind, but I've got to admit, I do love those paychecks.

I am not allowed to work more than 12 hrs a day , but that is per a union agreement.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2007, 09:54:34 PM »
And it seems likely that employment regulations will prohibit employers from forcing it.

true,but doubtful any will privately discourage it
ex. apple computers
steve jobs prided hinself for making his programmers works 72+ hours.
the very reason his present contract does not allow him to be incharge of any person now.
just because it against the law does not mean it not done.
it simply not enforced.


My position has always been that if you have to consistenly work morethan 40 hours a week, it is because you either want to, your boss doesn't know how to properly schedule workload or your boss is an ass and loves hammering people.
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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 01:40:41 AM »
I think it`s on the state labor laws
I know somebody trying to do a triple shift and gotb denied and state law was mentioned.
it dopes makes sense
to say it doesn`t impair is nonesense
would you want a pilot,truck driver,doctor to work those many hours?
and I know people at ILM doing those hours.
they quitely admit george is just wasting money getting people to do those hours
people are just not that creatrive after that many hours
so most of it is make up work
p.s. I got many truck drivers admit ,they don`t why they are still alive doing those long hauls.
coffee only works for a few hours ,but it also makes you crash harder.

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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 02:09:30 AM »
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p.s. I got many truck drivers admit ,they don`t why they are still alive doing those long hauls.
coffee only works for a few hours ,but it also makes you crash harder.

The smart ones know when it's time for them to get off the road.

I drove until I got tired, then I slept until I was rested. I  never took drugs to keep me going, and never kept multiple logbooks. I could still run 3500-4500 miles a week with no problem, and even at .30 per mile back then, that's pretty good pay. Most company drivers will average maybe 2500 miles a week, which when you think about it is less than 400 miles a day. Owner/operators will push harder, because they have to make their own truck payments, fuel, maintenance and breakdowns, etc., but they get paid more per mile. They are the ones most likely to be using drugs and keeping multiple logbooks to get more miles in. The fine, if you are caught with multiple logbooks, can run upwards of $2500, and you can be pulled off the road for up to a week. If you get caught using drugs, it can mean your license.
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Re: Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 02:39:45 AM »
actually the guys I know tend to avoid coffee.
nothing stronger than coke.
never got an answer for that.
are they scared that when the coffee wears off they won`t be able stop in time ?
I know when it wears off for me ,I`m not functional at all.