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GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« on: February 04, 2008, 04:48:39 PM »
?GOP TO EDWARDS: HOW MUCH FOR THAT CONCESSION SPEECH?
by Ann Coulter
January 30, 2008

The Democrats are trying to give away an election they should win in a walk by nominating someone with real problems -- like, for example, a first-term senator with a 100 percent rating from Americans for Democratic Action and whose middle name is "Hussein."

But we won't let them.

The bright side of the Florida debacle is that I no longer fear Hillary Clinton. (I mean in terms of her becoming president -- on a personal level, she's still a little creepy.) I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility.

Also, McCain lies a lot, which is really more a specialty of the Democrats.

Recently, McCain responded to Mitt Romney's statement that he understood the economy based on his many years in the private sector by claiming Romney had said a military career is not a "real job."

McCain's neurotic boast that he is the only Republican who supported the surge is beginning to sound as insane as Bill Clinton's claim to being the "first black president" -- although less insulting to blacks. As with the Clintons, you find yourself looking up such tedious facts as this, which ran a week after Bush announced the surge:

"On the morning of Bush's address, Romney endorsed a troop surge." -- The National Journal, Jan. 13, 2007

And yet for the 4 billionth time, at the Jan. 5, 2008, Republican debate, McCain bragged about his own raw courage in supporting the surge despite (apocryphal) Republican attacks, saying: "I said at the time that Gen. Petraeus and his strategy must be employed, and I was criticized by Republicans at that time. And that was a low point, but I stuck to it. I didn't change."

A review of contemporaneous news stories about the surge clearly demonstrates that the only Republicans who were so much as "skeptical" of the surge consisted of a few oddball liberal Republicans such as Sens. Gordon Smith, Norm Coleman and Olympia Snowe.

They certainly weren't attacking McCain, their standard-bearer in liberal Republicanism. But even if they were, it was a "low point" for McCain being "criticized" by the likes of Olympia Snowe?

In point of fact, McCain didn't even stand up to the milquetoasts. In April 2007, when Democrats in the Senate passed a bill funding the troops but also requiring a rapid withdrawal, "moderate" Republicans Smith and Chuck Hagel voted with the Democrats. McCain and Lindsey Graham skipped the vote.

But like the Democrats, McCain thinks if he simply says something over and over again, he can make people believe it's true. Thus again at the South Carolina debate on Jan. 10, McCain was proclaiming that he was "the only one on this stage" who supported the surge.

Since he would deny it about two minutes later, here is exactly what Mr. Straight Talk said about the surge: "I supported that; I argued for it. I'm the only one on this stage that did. And I condemn the Rumsfeld strategy before that."

The next question went to Giuliani and -- amid great flattery -- Giuliani noted that he also supported Bush's surge "the night of the president's speech."

Mr. Straight Talk contradicted Giuliani, saying: "Not at the time."

Again, Giuliani said: "The night of the president's speech, I was on television. I supported the surge. I've supported it throughout."

To which McCain finally said he didn't mean that he was "the only one on this stage" who supported the surge. So by "the only one on this stage," McCain really meant, "one of several people on this stage." OK, great. Now tell us your definition of the word "is," Senator.

I know Republicans have been trained not to go prostrate at Ivy League degrees, but do we have to admire stupidity?

Mr. Straight Talk also announced at that same debate: "One of the reasons why I won in New Hampshire is because I went there and told them the truth." That and the fact that Democrats were allowed to vote in the Republican primary.

Even in the Florida primary, allegedly limited to Republicans, McCain lost among Republicans. (Seventeen percent of the Republican primary voters in Florida called themselves "Independents.")

That helps, but why would any Republican vote for McCain?

At least under President Hillary, Republicans in Congress would know that they're supposed to fight back. When President McCain proposes the same ideas -- tax hikes, liberal judges and Social Security for illegals -- Republicans in Congress will support "our" president -- just as they supported, if only briefly, Bush's great ideas on amnesty and Harriet Miers.

You need little flags like that for Republicans since, as we know from the recent unpleasantness in Florida, Republicans are unalterably stupid.

Republicans who vote for McCain are trying to be cute, like the Democrats were four years ago by voting for the "pragmatic" candidate, Vietnam vet John Kerry. This will turn out to be precisely as clever a gambit as nominating Kerry was, the brilliance of which was revealed on Election Day 2004.

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 05:15:26 PM »
Even in the Florida primary, allegedly limited to Republicans, McCain lost among Republicans. (Seventeen percent of the Republican primary voters in Florida called themselves "Independents.")
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Coulter is totally full of crap on this one. Republicans call themselves Republicans in Florida, and Democrats call themselves Democrats.

In Florida, everyone is registered as a Republican, a Democrat, or No Party Affiliation. ONLY those registered as Republicans are allowed to vote in the Republican primary. One cannot change one's affiliation except 29 days or more BEFORE the primary.

As for lying, no one has ever told more significant lies than Juniorbush. Lies that have caused the death of over 2500 Americans and counting, and the maimiming of many more, not to count the thousands and thousands of Iraqis.
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 12:21:59 AM »
As for lying, no one has ever told more significant lies than Juniorbush.
 


Oh?

Have you found one now?

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 02:12:12 PM »
You are hopeless.

Here is how you tell when Juniorbush or Cheney are lying: their lips move.
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 02:19:32 PM »
I take it Ann doesn't like John McCain.  God forbid that the Republicans should nominate the one candidate who has the support of independants and might, just might, win a general election.  Talk about cutting off your nose.

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 02:46:26 PM »
To be honest Fat, I think either McCain or Romney would beat Hillary.  Obama on the other hand would definately be tougher.  And for me, all honor & respect for defending our country aside, I just don't trust McCain to be running the country.  Simple as that
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 03:07:05 PM »
To be honest Fat, I think either McCain or Romney would beat Hillary.  Obama on the other hand would definately be tougher.  And for me, all honor & respect for defending our country aside, I just don't trust McCain to be running the country.  Simple as that

I think you're right that either could beat Hillary, though I think McCain would have an easier time of it.  Obama is going to be tough for anyone, he's popular with the youth, he's an excellent speaker, and he's got a message that resonates with a lot of people.  The problem that I have with Romney is his switching around of the issues.  First he's for something, then against it.  I really like McCain, (other than his war stance), I'd probably take him over Hillary or Obama at this point.  I'd have more trust in him than in Romney, who's just the personification of a slick old politician.

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 03:27:07 PM »
>> I take it Ann doesn't like John McCain.  God forbid that the Republicans should nominate the one candidate who has the support of independants and might, just might, win a general election.  Talk about cutting off your nose. <<

Conservatives want a conservative candidate. Is that so hard to understand?

McCain has made a career of being a "maverick." Liberals love that. Do you know why? Because that means he disagrees with Conservatives on several issues that mean a lot to Conservatives. See, to liberals and the MSM, if you're Republican and disagree with liberals, you're a fascist. A Republican that disagrees with Republicans is a maverick, a smart politician, a patriot!

John McCain is not conservative enough for the base of the Republican party. If he gets the nomination he'll lose in November because despite all the nice things the media and liberals say about him there's no way those people are going to vote for him, and the base will split leaving us with another Bob Dole.

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 03:45:02 PM »
The base of the Republican Party is miles to the right of the average American.
Juniorbush is not any kind of fiscal or foreign policy conservative, as he is all for wars abroad fought on credit (from the Red Chinese, even) and huge deficits, to the point of buggering the currency. He was sold to the people as a 'compassionate conservative', but he is neither.
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 03:53:02 PM »
Sorry, but a liberals opinion of Bush means exactly dick.

Those of us not suffering from BDS can be objective when considering President Bush's record. All things considered, I give him good marks on taxes, and poor marks on domestic spending. He gets poor marks on immigration too. He gets good marks on appointing judges to the Supreme  Court (He eventually got it right). Then there's the over riding issue of our time, The War on Terror. that issue alone gives him the highest mark possible. All the rest of it pales in comparison. I'll be glad to see him go however, I can't take much more of these nutty liberals and the twisted hate they have for the man.

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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 04:00:37 PM »
The War on Terror. that issue alone gives him the highest mark possible. All the rest of it pales in comparison.

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Under Juniorbush's administration, more Americans have been killed by terrorists than under all other administrations than have come before. Highest mark possible, balderdash!

But then again "conservatives" and their principles are immune to arithmetic.
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 04:50:21 PM »
Conservatives want a conservative candidate. Is that so hard to understand?

No, if you read my post you'll say that I said Republican, not conservative.  The two are not one and the same as you well know.  On a side note, do you think the Republican party can realistically put up a conservative candidate in the general election?  I think there's as much chance of Barney Frank or Ted Kennedy getting elected as a "true" conservative.

McCain has made a career of being a "maverick." Liberals love that.

Liberals love mavericks?  That's funny, they're not so wild about their own mavericks, bluedogs for example.

Because that means he disagrees with Conservatives on several issues that mean a lot to Conservatives.

It's wrong to disagree with Conservatives? (or liberals for that matter?)  Does Bush agree on on a lot of issues with Conservatives?

See, to liberals and the MSM, if you're Republican and disagree with liberals, you're a fascist.

Please show when I've ever called a Republican (or anyone for that matter) a fascist?  Generally I only call people fascists who are, well, fascists.

A Republican that disagrees with Republicans is a maverick, a smart politician, a patriot!

McCain is a Republican who disagrees with conservatives on some issues.  That disagreement probably reflects his personal opinions and biases, and also the will of his constituency, being as he has been reelected.  Is a Senator supposed to listen to their party or to their constituency?

John McCain is not conservative enough for the base of the Republican party.

Which base?  You have two liberal Senators from Maine, you have Arlen Spector, the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party is alive and well.  As I mentioned above, not all Republicans are conservatives, nor are all conservatives Republican.  What I think you mean to say is that McCain is not conservative enough for the religious right and the true conservatives.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  That said, would you rather have a candidate who's kind of conservative and win, or not win at all and have a liberal for four years?  And I don't buy that Romney is any more conservative than McCain.

If he gets the nomination he'll lose in November because despite all the nice things the media and liberals say about him there's no way those people are going to vote for him, and the base will split leaving us with another Bob Dole.

As I also said before, if the election were today, I'd vote for him.  There's still a lot of time before November, and a lot can happen.  Kind of pointless to write him off right away.

Those of us not suffering from BDS can be objective when considering President Bush's record.

That's good, I'm not aware of having BDS, hopefully I can be objective.

Judges:  Good for conservatives, I'm not so wild about his choices.  D

Taxes:  Some good work here.  B

Fiscal Prudence:  Absolutely horrible.  F

Civil Rights:  I'm not sure if the ideas were his or Gonzalez's, but they're bad.  D

Immigration:  Effort made, but details need to be worked on.  C

Trade:  Steel tariffs anyone?  F

Foreign policy:  Some good, some bad.  C

War on Terror:  Mismanaged, like Iraq.  F

War in Iraq:  Mismanaged and bungled, but recent improvement.  I

Afghanistan:  Some progress.  D

Energy policy:  Finally looking at some alternative sources.  C

Overall GPA= 1.2  D average and one incomplete

I'll be glad to see him go however, I can't take much more of these nutty liberals and the twisted hate they have for the man.

Kind of like the hate a lot of conservatives had for Bill Clinton.
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Re: GOP to Edwards: How Much For that Concession Speech?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 05:05:10 PM »
Fatman ... you're mistaken.

Ronald Reagan was a conservative. George H.W. Bush ran as one and was removed from office because he failed to uphold conservative principles. George W. Bush also ran as a conservative. Believe it or not, he's more conservative than McCain, and the base of the party knows that.

Is it wrong to disagree with Conservatives? Of course it is. If you're running for president as a Republican. You need the base to get elected. Just like democrats need to lunatic left. It's their base. No, not all Republicans are conservative ... enough. John McCain is a hell of a man. Make no mistake about it. He's head and shoulders above anyone the democrat party has to offer, but these are the primaries, and Republicans/Conservatives are voicing their opinions regarding who they believe should represent them in November.

One more thing. I never said you called anyone a fascist. You know what I meant about the maverick label.