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We Are Survivors
« on: May 05, 2008, 10:01:04 PM »
TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1920s,30's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because,

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......

WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives for our own good .
While you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave (and lucky) their parents were.

Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?!

The quote of the month is by Jay Leno:

'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'

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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 12:25:51 AM »
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'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'


Umm, with all this here God's supposed omnipotence and all that, just who does Jay think caused all that crap?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 12:58:45 AM »
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'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?'


Umm, with all this here God's supposed omnipotence and all that, just who does Jay think caused all that crap?
Satan

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 01:17:36 AM »
What is the purpose of mentioning God in an oath to respect the flag?  Really, why and how is this important?

Would any sane and rational God be offended if we spoke an oath of respect to the flag and did not mention Him?


God, the nation and the flag (a symbol of the country) are different things, aren't they?
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 09:12:06 AM »
Q:  Umm, with all this here God's supposed omnipotence and all that, just who does Jay think caused all that crap?

A:  Satan

And this here supposedly benevolent and omnipotent God didn't lift a finger to stop him, which gives us every reason to toss him into the pledge of allegiance along with flag and country. Yeah.

'S okay, I skip that part anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 09:45:26 AM »
And this here supposedly benevolent and omnipotent God didn't lift a finger to stop him, which gives us every reason to toss him into the pledge of allegiance along with flag and country. Yeah.

'S okay, I skip that part anyway.

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You mean you say the pledge and do not mention that you are "under God" when you do so?

Blasphemy! Treachery! Obviously YOU are the cause.

God wants you to mention him when you claim to respect the flag in an official and ceremonious capacity.
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Of course, there is always the alternative "Bart Simpson" Pledge:

I plead alignment to the flakes
of the untitled snakes of a merry cow.
And to the Republicans, for which they scam,
one nacho, underpants,
with licorice, and jugs of wine for owls.

It is said one may say this version and most of one's fellows will be none the wiser.
Of course, G*d will know.


And here is Bongo, the One-eared Bunny's illustrated pledge:
http://pharyngula.org/images/hell_pledge1.gif
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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2008, 09:25:21 PM »
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You mean you say the pledge and do not mention that you are "under God" when you do so?

Haven't for years, even when I still said the pledge.

I was stationed in Turkey in 1976. You remember 1976, the Bicentennial year? A couple of years before, Turkey and Greece had gone to war over Cyprus, and Turkey used American made weapons against the Greeks. We told them they couldn't do that, as the Greeks, like the Turks, were members of NATO. Turkey told us to go stuff ourselves, and shut down our eavesdropping stations there. Well, they didn't shut them down completely, but we weren't allowed to eavesdrop for a while, and most of the American troops went home, except for us few who had to maintain the gear in case we were allowed to start it back up again, and some support personnel. We were under an embargo - we couldn't send or receive packages, even 'Care' packages from home, not even spare parts for our gear; we weren't allowed to fly the American flag anywhere outside on base, or even wear American flag patches on our uniforms.

Oh, yeah, this was the Bicentennial, remember. As the Fourth of July drew closer, the staff in Ankara tried, unsuccessfully, to get the Turkish General Staff to lift their ban and let us have an outdoor formation on the Fourth of July with the American flag. No dice. We had fireworks, and a formation flyover of our two mail planes, and a picnic, and baseball, but no flags, not outside anyway.

There's a lot more to the story, but basically that was my Bicentennial. And actually, I worked most of it, to let my guys have some time off to enjoy the celebration, such as it was.

I gained a whole new respect for the flag as a symbol then, and I've still got a lot of respect for the flag and what it stands for. I don't have so much respect for the current crop of baboons who are doing their best to drag it through the mud and tarnish it's symbolism.

I don't say the pledge anymore. With or without 'under God'.
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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 10:52:23 PM »



What is the purpose of mentioning God in an oath to respect the flag?

 Purpose being-- The flag is a symbol of all that is true to the origins of this land of America.
God is good.

 God is clearly responsible for all that we have in this nation, Xavier, in spite of what YOU  believe to the contrary. I would rather honor God in the pledge that respects this country than not.
I am sorry to hear that you do not feel that way. God is the only reason we live in this free world.


 Really, why and how is this important?

Without God, we are lost. Period.



 
 

Would any sane and rational God be offended if we spoke an oath of respect to the flag and did not mention Him?


No, He is a loving God. He knows your heart. He's not going to judge those who leave Him out of anything. He will keep His arms open for those who struggle ---no matter what. But, why leave Him out?
 He wants us to recognize His name when it comes to such a high salute--the pledge of allegiance.



God, the nation and the flag (a symbol of the country) are different things, aren't they?


Yes, and No.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 10:57:33 PM by Cynthia »

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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 10:59:25 PM »

And this here supposedly benevolent and omnipotent God didn't lift a finger to stop him,? which gives us every reason to toss him into the pledge of allegiance along with flag and country. Yeah.
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HUh? ???

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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »
And this here supposedly benevolent and omnipotent God didn't lift a finger to stop him, which gives us every reason to toss him into the pledge of allegiance along with flag and country. Yeah.

'S okay, I skip that part anyway.

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You mean you say the pledge and do not mention that you are "under God" when you do so?

Blasphemy! Treachery! Obviously YOU are the cause.

God wants you to mention him when you claim to respect the flag in an official and ceremonious capacity.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Of course, there is always the alternative "Bart Simpson" Pledge:

I plead alignment to the flakes
of the untitled snakes of a merry cow.
And to the Republicans, for which they scam,
one nacho, underpants,
with licorice, and jugs of wine for owls.

It is said one may say this version and most of one's fellows will be none the wiser.
Of course, G*d will know.


And here is Bongo, the One-eared Bunny's illustrated pledge:
http://pharyngula.org/images/hell_pledge1.gif



Ignorance is such a comic relief....sometimes.

Cynthia

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Re: We Are Survivors
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 11:03:01 PM »
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You mean you say the pledge and do not mention that you are "under God" when you do so?

Haven't for years, even when I still said the pledge.

I was stationed in Turkey in 1976. You remember 1976, the Bicentennial year? A couple of years before, Turkey and Greece had gone to war over Cyprus, and Turkey used American made weapons against the Greeks. We told them they couldn't do that, as the Greeks, like the Turks, were members of NATO. Turkey told us to go stuff ourselves, and shut down our eavesdropping stations there. Well, they didn't shut them down completely, but we weren't allowed to eavesdrop for a while, and most of the American troops went home, except for us few who had to maintain the gear in case we were allowed to start it back up again, and some support personnel. We were under an embargo - we couldn't send or receive packages, even 'Care' packages from home, not even spare parts for our gear; we weren't allowed to fly the American flag anywhere outside on base, or even wear American flag patches on our uniforms.

Oh, yeah, this was the Bicentennial, remember. As the Fourth of July drew closer, the staff in Ankara tried, unsuccessfully, to get the Turkish General Staff to lift their ban and let us have an outdoor formation on the Fourth of July with the American flag. No dice. We had fireworks, and a formation flyover of our two mail planes, and a picnic, and baseball, but no flags, not outside anyway.

There's a lot more to the story, but basically that was my Bicentennial. And actually, I worked most of it, to let my guys have some time off to enjoy the celebration, such as it was.

I gained a whole new respect for the flag as a symbol then, and I've still got a lot of respect for the flag and what it stands for. I don't have so much respect for the current crop of baboons who are doing their best to drag it through the mud and tarnish it's symbolism.

I don't say the pledge anymore. With or without 'under God'.


That's too bad.