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Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« on: August 25, 2008, 07:34:54 PM »
http://www.counterpunch.com/frank08232008.html

Cindy Sheehan is waging a gutsy battle against Pelosi in San Francisco and against very formidable bureaucratic  opposition has managed to get herself onto the ballot as a candidate of unstated party affiliation.  This article outlines the struggle to get on the ballot and what Cindy hopes to accomplish from here to November.  A fantastic lady with the balls of a brass monkey and a forthright determination to hold Pelosi accountable for her betrayals of the voters who put her in office.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 08:13:47 PM »
I wish her well in her quixotic efforts, but i don't think she stands a chance.


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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2008, 09:07:20 PM »
I wish her well in her quixotic efforts, but i don't think she stands a chance.



No net gain for dems - both are dumber than a box of rocks.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2008, 10:26:04 PM »
<<I wish her well in her quixotic efforts, but i don't think she stands a chance. >>

Looks like a long shot to me too,  but it's an effort that has to be made.  Some of us have to know that you CAN fight the good fight and that winning isn't everything.  And maybe somewhere, some kid will be inspired by that fight and make her own fight in her own time, also "not standing a chance" - - we don't know the full extent of the ripple effect, but as Amnesty International always said, "Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness."

I keep thinking back to some pretty dark days during the Viet Nam War, when I had come to believe that the cause was hopeless, that the Death Machine was just too big and too heavy even for the most courageous and spirited fighters, that despite all my earlier optimism, this was a lost cause.  And then, in a few short years and then month-by-month, the whole house of cards began to come apart and in April and May of 1975, I saw something I had given up all hope of ever seeing, the Triumph of the Revolution.  It really was like magic.  Cindy will win or lose, but to her dying day, people will know that she fought the War Party, that she gave it her all, and that's something that nobody can ever take from her.  And even if she goes down to defeat, someone else, someplace else, can pick up that torch anywhere on this planet and carry on the fight.  Because she didn't compromise.  She didn't make deals.  She knew what was right and she fought the best fight she could for it.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 11:38:22 PM »
I hardly think Pelosi is a member of the War Party. I doubt her constituents do either.

Then again Sheehan's and your rhetoric has always been a bit over the top.


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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 01:17:50 AM »
<<I hardly think Pelosi is a member of the War Party. I doubt her constituents do either.>>

I guess her continuing to vote funding for the war and her refusal to countenance the impeachment of a war criminal President put her squarely within the Peace Party.  I forgot for a moment I was dealing with Bizarro World.

<<Then again Sheehan's and your rhetoric has always been a bit over the top. >>

Us racists tend to speak that way.  We get it from Adolf Hitler.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2008, 01:21:18 AM »
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I guess her continuing to vote funding for the war and her refusal to countenance the impeachment of a war criminal President put her squarely within the Peace Party.  I forgot for a moment I was dealing with Bizarro World.

She apparently was a strong enough member of the Peace Party to get elected their speaker.

Oh wait, i must really be slow. You are calling the dems the war party too.


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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2008, 01:37:25 AM »
<<Oh wait, i must really be slow.>>

Maybe you're just tired. 

<<You are calling the dems the war party too.>>

I'm calling the War Party the War Party.  It has both Republicans and Democrats in it.  It works like this:  the Democrats in opposition can pretend to be the Peace Party.  When they acquire the power to end the war, they turn out to be the War Party.  The Big Money Party works the same way.  When the Democrats are in opposition they can pretend to be The Little Guy's Party.  Then they get in, and you see they're also on the side of the Big Money.

It's a good system.  It provides an excuse for the farcical "elections" that are held every four years so the morons can believe they still live in a "democracy."

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2008, 01:44:08 AM »
One would think the dems are unaware of this fact if one reads Kos, ThinkProgress and other dem centers of synergy.

Boy will they be surprised.




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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2008, 02:02:00 AM »
<<One would think the dems are unaware of this fact if one reads Kos, ThinkProgress and other dem centers of synergy.

<<Boy will they be surprised.>>

Not as surprised as you think.  Maybe you should spend some more time on those blogs.  There was lots of indignation at Pelosi taking impeachment off the table and voting to continue war spending.  I think they see it as a lesser-of-two-evils thing.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2008, 02:29:07 AM »
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Us racists tend to speak that way

I don't recall Sheehan having a racist bent.

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Re: Cindy Sheehan on Taking On Pelosi
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2008, 02:31:36 AM »
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I think they see it as a lesser-of-two-evils thing.

Pragmatism over idealism? Hmm.