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sirs

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Interesting spin
« on: September 18, 2008, 04:20:03 PM »
.....which might work if the left were supportive of the war in Iraq and against militant Islam.  Then one could justify the notion.  This though, is just a transparent emotional grasp at pushing for higher taxes, again to be payed for primarily by "the rich".  Implication being if you don't support said notion, you're being unpatriotic

Biden calls paying higher taxes a patriotic act

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer
Thu Sep 18, 2008

 
WASHINGTON - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. In a new TV ad that repeats widely debunked claims about the Democratic tax plan, the Republican campaign calls Obama's tax increases "painful."
 
Under the economic plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less ? the vast majority of American taxpayers ? would receive a tax cut.

Although Republican John McCain claims that Obama would raise taxes, the independent Tax Policy Center and other groups conclude that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama's proposals.

"We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people," Biden said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: "It's time to be patriotic ... time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut."

McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that "a big government casts a big shadow on us all," the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal.

"Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government, billions in spending increases, wasteful pork," the ad says. "And we would pay ? painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil. Can your family afford that?"

The McCain campaign said the ad is set to run nationally.

Yea, it's the taxpayer's fault      >:(
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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 04:22:36 PM »
Is Biden implying that middle class americans are not patriotic? That they would be unwilling to do their fair share?


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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 04:24:39 PM »
It sure would seem so.  Is this yet another Biden foot-in-the-mouth debacle in bloom?
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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 04:36:06 PM »
It is NOT Biden's implication.  It is simply your insipid inference.

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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 04:41:49 PM »
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It is NOT Biden's implication.  It is simply your insipid inference.

Take a valium Brass.


Biden says the higher earners should be happy to pay more taxes, it is patriotic yet Obama is giving promising a tax cut to a vast majority of the middle class denying them that same happiness as well as the opportunity to proudly show their patriotism.


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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 04:53:58 PM »
It is NOT Biden's implication.  It is simply your insipid inference.

Insipid, huh.  So, Biden proclaims how it's being patriotic for "the rich" to pay higher taxes, yet if they don't support that idea...........?
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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 05:05:00 PM »
Biden says the higher earners should be happy to pay more taxes, it is patriotic yet Obama is giving promising a tax cut to a vast majority of the middle class denying them that same happiness as well as the opportunity to proudly show their patriotism.

Bt's dead on in displaying the transparency of this tactic. Here's a perfect example of which party really does try to set up classes against one another.  If the rich aren't paying higher taxes, then it's them being unpatriotic, right?  Everyone else apparently gets a pass at being patriotic

And yet Xo's the one claiming it's the GOP that tries setting 1 class against another.  Go figure
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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 08:44:38 PM »
Xo's the one claiming it's the GOP that tries setting 1 class against another.  Go figure

They do not TRY to do this. They have done it and are continuing to do it, and by stealth.
When you are impoverishing an entire class of people for your own gain, as the oligarchy has been doing since the 1980's, it must be done stealthily.


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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 10:47:24 PM »
Xo's the one claiming it's the GOP that tries setting 1 class against another.  Go figure

They do not TRY to do this. They have done it and are continuing to do it, and by stealth.
When you are impoverishing an entire class of people for your own gain, as the oligarchy has been doing since the 1980's, it must be done stealthily.




What is the method of ,...improverishment?

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 10:59:43 PM »
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What is the method of ,...improverishment?

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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 11:41:51 PM »
<<Xo's the one claiming it's the GOP that tries setting 1 class against another.  Go figure>>

They do not TRY to do this. They have done it and are continuing to do it, and by stealth.

Ahhh....the Tee tactic.  The proof is how stealthy they are.  The less, the more.  Let's ignore Biden's public foot-in-mouth, let's focus on that which can't be seen, and claim...."See?"



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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 12:12:59 AM »
<<Ahhh....the Tee tactic.  The proof is how stealthy they are.  The less, the more.  Let's ignore Biden's public foot-in-mouth, let's focus on that which can't be seen, and claim...."See?">>

Well, actually, the proof is in the results.  The ever-widening gap between the rich and the poor.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2008, 12:17:02 AM »
The charge was that tax policy is what is widening the gap. Think you can answer that.


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Re: Interesting spin
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2008, 01:25:40 AM »
<<Ahhh....the Tee tactic.  The proof is how stealthy they are.  The less, the more.  Let's ignore Biden's public foot-in-mouth, let's focus on that which can't be seen, and claim...."See?">>

Well, actually, the proof is in the results.  The ever-widening gap between the rich and the poor.

Actually, that's not proof of tax policy causing anything.  And in reality, the Rich are getting richer, and so are our poor, when compared to just about any other nation.  I realize the 3 TV's, a car, roof over the head, and an X-Box may be considered destitute to the left, but in reality, our poor are doing pretty damn good, COMPARED to so many other impoverished countries
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle