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Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« on: September 19, 2008, 02:58:09 PM »


Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote

Sep 19, 2008

By Gerald Warner

More, as promised, on Senator Joe Biden (why should Sarah Palin get all the coverage?). Remember, you read it here first: on September 11 this blog reported a mounting backlash from Catholic bishops against Biden, Barack Obama's "Catholic" pro-abortion running mate. At that time I estimated eight bishops had come out to denounce Biden; the total is now 55. Beyond that, Biden is being trashed across every state of the Union by Catholic newspapers, TV and radio stations, and blogs. It is a tsunami of rejection.



Joe Biden has really put his foot in it with the Catholics

The story has now hit the secular media. Last Saturday Time magazine asked: "Does Biden Have a Catholic Problem?" By Wednesday the issue had moved onto the front page of the New York Times. Joe the Jinx has blown it, big time. Biden has only himself to blame: he started this war, with his notoriously undisciplined mouth. He knew the dangers. Last August, Archbishop Raymond Burke, former Archbishop of St Louis and now Prefect of the Apostolic Segnatura in Rome, said communion should be denied to pro-abortion politicians "until they have reformed their lives".

Archbishop Chaput of Denver had already announced Biden should not receive communion because of his pro-abortion views. Defiantly, Biden took communion in his home parish in Delaware in late August. On September 2 the Bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania (a crucial swing state) banned him from communion in his diocese. That is effective excommunication. Then came the crucial provocation. On NBC's Meet the Press programme on September 7 Biden grossly misrepresented the Catholic Church's teaching on abortion and audaciously cited St Thomas Aquinas in his own cause.

That did it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had already done the same thing on the same programme, in her instance citing St Augustine. Even the torpid US bishops could not have false doctrine glibly broadcast by public figures, misleading their flock. So the counterattack described here last week began, culminating in a statement from the US Bishops' Conference. The bishops of Kansas City have also issued a pastoral letter on the subject. It is open season on Biden.

There are 47 million Catholic voters in the United States. One quarter of all registered voters are Catholics. At every presidential election in the past 30 years the Catholic vote has gone to the winning candidate, except for Al Gore in 2000. This year 41 per cent of Catholics are independents - up from 30 per cent in 2004. Psephologists claim practising Catholics were the decisive factor in the crucial swing states in 2004: in Ohio 65 per cent of Catholics voted for Bush, in Florida 66 per cent. They were drifting away in disillusionment from the Republicans and split 50-50, until Joe Biden worked his magic. This is electoral suicide by the Democrats.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2008/09/19/joe_biden_loses_barack_obama_the_catholic_vote
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 03:09:10 PM »
How DARE he take Communion!

How DARE he quote St. Thomas Aquinas!


Everyone knows that all Catholics follow the Church in lock step formation.
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2008, 05:37:15 PM »
Catholics have a tendency to listen to their priests.

Just like Wrights flock listens to him.


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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2008, 05:55:48 PM »
Defiantly, Biden took communion in his home parish in Delaware in late August. On September 2 the Bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania (a crucial swing state) banned him from communion in his diocese. That is effective excommunication.

I hope he wasn't hurt.

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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 06:18:02 PM »
Defiantly, Biden took communion in his home parish in Delaware in late August. On September 2 the Bishop of Scranton, Pennsylvania (a crucial swing state) banned him from communion in his diocese. That is effective excommunication.

I hope he wasn't hurt.

Saw a wonderful thing on YouTube:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MugQDD2FcKQ[/youtube]

Best part is him throwing a penny between two Jews and they fought over it and then he did it with a Catholic priest but used a little boy.

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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 06:22:59 PM »

How DARE he take Communion!  How DARE he quote St. Thomas Aquinas!  Everyone knows that all Catholics follow the Church in lock step formation
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LOL.....all sarcasm aside, this is precisely the position most of the liberal left adopt regarding African Americans, since if they don't vote "lock-step", they're an Uncle Tom.  How dare they think for themselves.  Everyone knows that the African American community vote in lock step formation

Good job, Xo
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 11:28:43 PM »
You will see that something like 85-95% of Black Americans will vote for Obama. They agree with him a lot more than the Catholics agree with the pope.
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 11:51:16 PM »
Yet the point remains......that % that doesn't is branded an Uncle Tom.....how dare they NOT agree with the rest, how dare they not vote "lock step".  Your POV of Catholics is apparently hypocritically refuted by yours & Tee's on African Americans
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 10:24:21 AM »
Yet the point remains......that % that doesn't is branded an Uncle Tom.....how dare they NOT agree with the rest, how dare they not vote "lock step".  Your POV of Catholics is apparently hypocritically refuted by yours & Tee's on African Americans

Blacks and Catholics think for themselves.


Most Blacks think Obama is a swell guy and will vote for him in unprecedented numbers.

Many, perhaps most,Catholics do NOT agree with church doctrine and will vote for Obama no matter what Biden says or does. Biden as VP will have no power to do anything about abortion. Most Americans believe that abortions are justified in some situations.

This has NOTHING to do with what Tee or I believe. People will vote as they wish. No one will be paying any attention to you, either.


There is nothing hypocritical about having an opinion you do not agree with. Most of the human race has many opinions you do not agree with. Tough sh*t.
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Re: Joe Biden loses Barack Obama the Catholic vote
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2008, 11:21:17 AM »
Yet the point remains......that % that doesn't is branded an Uncle Tom.....how dare they NOT agree with the rest, how dare they not vote "lock step".  Your POV of Catholics is apparently hypocritically refuted by yours & Tee's on African Americans

Blacks and Catholics think for themselves.

Never said the didn't


Most Blacks think Obama is a swell guy and will vote for him in unprecedented numbers.

With the point being those that don't are derrogatorily branded, for daring not to follow "lock-step" with the rest of the herd.  I do thank you & Tee for your contributions in validating such


No one will be paying any attention to you, either.

LOL......right, that's why a certain someone keeps responding to my posts    ;D


There is nothing hypocritical about having an opinion you do not agree with. Most of the human race has many opinions you do not agree with. Tough sh*t.

Which of course, has ZIP to do with the point that's been made
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