Can we avoid 1929?

[Lanya]

Socialism seems to be working very well for all those government workers, be they city, county, state, or federal. 
We pay tax money into a big fund, and they get paid from it.  So we have firefighters, teachers, police, military, meat and water and safety inspectors. We pay people to administer tests to doctors and nurses so we have qualified people taking care of our sick and wounded. 
The highway that Ike had built was socialism, all across the country. So is Social Security, SSDI, SSI, SCHIP, Medicare, Medicaid, and so on.
And we're still The United States of America. It doesn't seem to hurt us any.
I don't understand why pooling resources and using them for the common good is seen as such a devious or deviant thing.  Is it a hangover from the McCarthy era?  Are you now or have you ever been...Yes. I think socialism is a fine idea and even better in practice.  I hope to see it in Universal Health Care. We are a huge rich country and we don't deserve to die, when an ounce of preventative health care could have saved us.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Communism is;

A person is loaned three cows by the gov. to raise and make milk and cheese. The person gets to share the milk and cheese but the gov. owns the cow. You are not allowed to own the cow. You can't keep the profit from the milk or cheese if you decide to sell it.
YOU DON'T OWN NADA.


Socialism is;

A person is given three cows. They're able to keep the three cows AND WORK, but the gov. decides how the milk/cheese are to be distributed.

Democracy is;

If you earn three cows, you're free to milk them....and make cheese and milk from the cows for yourself --OR--- sell the milk and cheese and give a portion of the profits to the government.

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Oh, please.
Stop it with the tired old cliches.

Go to the Netherlands or Denmark, see how dairy farms are run. No other countries of their size make or export more quality dairy products. Both are socialist.


Socialist countries are democratic. There are no purely Socialistic nations, and no purely capitalist ones. This is a continuum, not a black and white alternative.

The US is increasingly a nation where the few own pretty much everything. Each and every year the top 1% owns more. The middle class is shrinking. This is a fact. It does not bode well for our being a free and open society. Remember, the boss has a RIGHT to access your computer messages, your phone calls, your credit reports, your medical records. The government does not have those rights yet.

After basic necessities are met, a higher percentage of Dutch and Danes live better, happier and longer lives than Americans. They do not have this compulsion to go out and invade other people's countries every two or three years, either.

[Plane]

What is "creeping socialism"?

We used to worry about that and those poor boiled frogs.

[Xavier_Onassis]

What is "creeping socialism"?

We used to worry about that and those poor boiled frogs.

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Juniorbush's taking over insurance companies and banks might be an example.

Every administration since Hoover has caused the government to grow.

You are still worried about boiled frogs. C4U still thinks that Reagan was somehow against larger government. A boiled frog is pretty much a metaphor for that sort of thing.