Boston Bush Bash @ Marcia Coakley Event

[Kramer]

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/after_obama_ral.php

After Obama Rally, Dems Pin Blame On Bush
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By Felicia Sonmez

As audience members streamed out of Pres. Obama's rally on behalf of AG Martha Coakley (D) here tonight, the consensus was that the fault for Coakley's now-floundering MA SEN bid lies with one person -- George W. Bush.

"People are upset because there's so many problems," Rosemary Kverek, 70, a retired Charleston schoolteacher said as tonight's rally wrapped up. "But the problems came from the previous administration. So we're blaming poor Obama, who's working 36 hours a day ... to solve these problems that he inherited."

Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI), speaking with a gaggle of reporters after the event, said that while state Sen. Scott Brown (R) offers voters a quick fix, in reality, the problems created by "George Bush and his cronies" are not so easily solved.

"If you think there's magic out there and things can be turned around overnight, then you would vote for someone who could promise you that, like Scott Brown," Kennedy said. "If you don't, if you know that it takes eight years for George Bush and his cronies to put our country into this hole ... then you know we have a lot of digging to do, but some work needs to be done and this president's in the process of doing it and we need to get Marcia Coakley to help him to do that."

(Curiously, Kennedy mentioned Coakley repeatedly during his remarks to reporters, each time referring to her as "Marcia," not "Martha.")

More Kennedy: "One thing the Democrats have done wrong? We haven't kept the focus on this disaster on the Republicans who brought it upon us. We've tried too hard to do that right thing, and that's to fix it, as opposed to spend more of our time and energy pointing the finger at who got us [here] in the first place."

Blaming their problems on Bush does carry a risk for Dems, however -- with their sights so firmly focused on the past, Brown's campaign has managed to wrest the "change" mantle from them.

Meanwhile, even as Kennedy took on both Bush and Brown head-on, some attendees were more muted in their criticism of Brown.

"I mean, he is handsome," Christine DiPitro, 61, of Malden, said of Brown.

"He does appeal to the regular guy with his truck, but that's about all."

[Plane]

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Meanwhile, even as Kennedy took on both Bush and Brown head-on, some attendees were more muted in their criticism of Brown.

"I mean, he is handsome," Christine DiPitro, 61, of Malden, said of Brown.

"He does appeal to the regular guy with his truck, but that's about all."

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Isn't appealing to the regular guy pretty nearly enough?

[Kramer]

Isn't appealing to the regular guy pretty nearly enough?
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as opposed to an un-regular numskull guy Patrick Kennedy the drug addict/alcoholic?  

[sirs]

As audience members streamed out of Pres. Obama's rally on behalf of AG Martha Coakley (D) here tonight, the consensus was that the fault for Coakley's now-floundering MA SEN bid lies with one person -- George W. Bush.

LOL...but of course.  That's the tact that will be used for pretty much....every election cycle, for a while.  Kinda dovetails with the SOP "Vote for us...we're not them"

[R.R.]

It's kind of hard to bash Bush anymore since Obama tapped him to lead the Haiti relief effort.

[Kramer]

It's kind of hard to bash Bush anymore since Obama tapped him to lead the Haiti relief effort.

why would that be?

Note: of course that would be true if Democrat politicians were honest, had integrity and character, had morals, were law-abiding and mentally stable but they are none of those so again I ask why did Obama put Bush in charge of Haiti yet blame him for all of our problems -- seems like the exact thing a coward would do. On the other hand Bush is a ditpshit for taking the job. Of all people to put in charge of disasters, with his record on Katrina, the last guy to tap would be Bush -- again that shows just how insane these people to be. We have given the key to our country to a bunch of incompetent scum, no wonder we are heading for a worldwide economic collapse.

[Michael Tee]

Maybe I missed something here, but I thought that Obama has asked both George W. Bush AND Bill Clinton to spearhead the Haitian relief efforts.  A nice bi-partisan touch to symbolize the humanitarian and purely non-political nature of the relief efforts.

But it seems like once again you guys just build your own alternative reality, wherein Obama asks "Bush" to head Haitian relief and Clinton is nowhere in the picture.

Anyway, bitch all you like.  Bush IS responsible for the mess the country is in, Mass is no exception, and Obama is busting his ass to repair the damage, but that doesn't mean they have to ignore exactly whose mess they are trying to clean up.  I don't think Coakley is going to be in trouble much longer, now that all the fingers are pointing in the right direction.

[sirs]

And it also more than seems that once again, our resident communist would rather invest time into tangential diatribes aimed at Bush & America, vs responding to specific pertinent questions posed.

Then again, I think we all know why

[Michael Tee]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/obama-tries-to-rescue-senate-race---and-himself/article1434574/

Nice analysis by The Globe & Mail's Konrad Yakubuski of the Mass Senate race and Obama's intervention.  Yak makes it clear that most of the problems that are sparking Massachusetts' resentment of the Federal government are NOT of Obama's making, and identifies the chief point of resentment - - that a solidly Democratic state has actually come closest to providing decent health care to all its citizens, leaving them in the unique quandary of having little left to gain from Obama's health care plan for the nation, while knowing that their taxes will have to be jacked up to pay for it.  The temptation to scuttle national health care for pure greed is therefore strong.

Hopefully, Obama will be able to appeal to their better instincts and bring them back on board the Democratic ship.

[Kramer]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/obama-tries-to-rescue-senate-race---and-himself/article1434574/

Nice analysis by The Globe & Mail's Konrad Yakubuski of the Mass Senate race and Obama's intervention.  Yak makes it clear that most of the problems that are sparking Massachusetts' resentment of the Federal government are NOT of Obama's making, and identifies the chief point of resentment - - that a solidly Democratic state has actually come closest to providing decent health care to all its citizens, leaving them in the unique quandary of having little left to gain from Obama's health care plan for the nation, while knowing that their taxes will have to be jacked up to pay for it.  The temptation to scuttle national health care for pure greed is therefore strong.

Hopefully, Obama will be able to appeal to their better instincts and bring them back on board the Democratic ship.

so far Obama's record is bleak, he went to Copenhagen to get the Olympics came home empty handed, went to Jersey to get a dem elected and came home a loser, went to Virginia to get a Dem elected and came home a defeated, went back to Copenhagen for a global warming victory came home a loser, went to Asia came back a loser and a bower, he's striking out in the Middle East, Iran told him to shove it up his ass, and now he's gone to Mass to help coakley lose. The icing on the cake will be his failure with health care.

[Stray Pooch]

Maybe I missed something here, but I thought that Obama has asked both George W. Bush AND Bill Clinton to spearhead the Haitian relief efforts.  A nice bi-partisan touch to symbolize the humanitarian and purely non-political nature of the relief efforts.

But it seems like once again you guys just build your own alternative reality, wherein Obama asks "Bush" to head Haitian relief and Clinton is nowhere in the picture.

As the President pointed out, he was only following what Bush himself did for the Tsunami effort in asking the previous two Presidents to head up the relief effort (one each of Dem and Repub).  It is an important symbolic gesture and it doesn't really make a huge difference otherwise.  Bill and Dubya are just figureheads, as were Bill and Papa Bush in Dubya's day.  But the symbolism is important.  Dubya had no choice, really, but to accept the request - since he was the person who came up with the concept.   Even if he hadn't, how could anyone turn down a request for the sitting President, irrespective of party, to help in a clearly humanitarian effort that EVERYONE is interested in?

The thing that struck me most when Obama came out with the two ex's in tow was that there are very few countries in the world where a succession of leaders from different parties, each of who defeated the other's party in contentious elections, could show up in the nations capital and not involve troops, guns and refugees.

[Michael Tee]

<<The thing that struck me most when Obama came out with the two ex's in tow was that there are very few countries in the world where a succession of leaders from different parties, each of who defeated the other's party in contentious elections, could show up in the nations capital and not involve troops, guns and refugees.>>

Ridiculous.  In 1978, on the recommendation of the Liberal Party's Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau, the Queen appointed Edward Schreyer, former leader of the NDP (socialist) party, defeated by the Liberals, to be the Governor-General of Canada.

IMHO, it was Andrew Jackson who initiated the "spoils system" that marked the departure of the U.S.A. from the British tradition of shared duties and responsibilities of all citizens into a "winner take all" lottery that contributed so much to the polarization of U.S. civil society today.  Thankfully, that was one "new direction" that the U.S. took that Canada and the rest of the British Commonwealth did not choose to follow.  I think even today, we'll see much more evidence of the "spoils system" still alive and well in the U.S. than anywhere else in the English-speaking world.

[Amianthus]

Ridiculous.

Perhaps you should revisit the definition of "very few countries."

[Plane]

The thing that struck me most when Obama came out with the two ex's in tow was that there are very few countries in the world where a succession of leaders from different parties, each of who defeated the other's party in contentious elections, could show up in the nations capital and not involve troops, guns and refugees.

Yes, one of the nicest features of our system.