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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2010, 01:54:05 PM »
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The legislature declared war on all the state teachers, and Crist rightfully vetoed a terrible law.

Meanwhile:

Florida was among of several states pushing to enact laws creating performance pay programs in hopes of winning part of $4.35 billion in federal grant money from Obama's "Race to the Top" program. The grants are designed to encourage states to embrace innovative programs that improve student achievement and turn around failing schools.

Tennessee and Delaware received $600 million in the first round in part because of merit pay programs supported by their teachers unions.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/04/15/v-fullstory/1581102/crist-vetoes-florida-teacher-pay.html#ixzz0mVcVyXo5

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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2010, 02:24:46 PM »
D'oh         ;)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2010, 02:47:58 PM »
<<Opponents said the tenure and rectification provisions were unprecedented. They argued the lack of job security and testing that can be skewed by outside factors such as students' home lives would have discouraged good teachers from working in Florida.

That alone makes it obvious how poorly thought-out this bill was.  It is ridiculous.

<<School districts also would have been prohibited from using experience and advanced degrees in setting pay scales, now a common practice.>>

Huh???

Well, that sure fits the GOP practice of appealing to the lowest common denominator.  Obama was a magna cum laude grad of Harvard Law and taught Constitutional Law at U. of Chicago Law School for 12 years, so morons like McCain (finished third from the bottom in a class of 800 in a military academy) and Palin ("I read all the magazines and newspapers, I just can't name any of them") must obviously be superior to "egg-heads" like Obama.

A little more detail on the ed-reform bills that passed with teachers' union support in Delaware and Tennessee would have been helpful.  Incentive rewards for merit aren't bad in principle, maybe there was a difference in the means of evaluation and procedural protection for the teachers.  Maybe there were reasonable limits on penalties.  But who knows - - maybe the teachers' unions there were just sell-out pushovers.  The reporting on that aspect of the issue leaves everyone in the dark.

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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2010, 03:05:36 PM »
Some of the smartest people I know are idiots.  Having a fancy degree doesn't automatically equate to being either intelligent or well reasoned.  It literally means you can take tests well

I'll take a logical, rational, & moral C+ person over an irrational irresponisble, and wreckless A+ magna cum laude, any and every day of the week
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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2010, 05:41:15 PM »
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A little more detail on the ed-reform bills that passed with teachers' union support in Delaware and Tennessee would have been helpful.

Yep

Why is it good for some states but not Florida.

And it really doesn't matter what Obama's academic record was. This isn't about him. It's about the children, not the teachers, not the unions, but the children. And if kids had as big a lobby as the teachers  do, then maybe their welfare would be of greater concern.



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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2010, 05:57:31 PM »
Some of the smartest people I know are idiots.  Having a fancy degree doesn't automatically equate to being either intelligent or well reasoned.  It literally means you can take tests well

I'll take a logical, rational, & moral C+ person over an irrational irresponisble, and wreckless A+ magna cum laude, any and every day of the week
 
 
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Re: GOP Self-Destruction Continues as Crist to Run as Independent
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2010, 06:13:37 PM »
 8)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle