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Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?

By ERNEST S. CHRISTIAN AND GARY A ROBBINS
Posted 06:30 PM ET

The Internet is a large-scale version of the "Committees of Correspondence" that led to the first American Revolution — and with Washington's failings now so obvious and awful, it may lead to another.

People are asking, "Is the government doing us more harm than good? Should we change what it does and the way it does it?"

Pruning the power of government begins with the imperial presidency.

Too many overreaching laws give the president too much discretion to make too many open-ended rules controlling too many aspects of our lives. There's no end to the harm an out-of-control president can do.

Bill Clinton lowered the culture, moral tone and strength of the nation — and left America vulnerable to attack. When it came, George W. Bush stood up for America, albeit sometimes clumsily.

Barack Obama, however, has pulled off the ultimate switcheroo: He's diminishing America from within — so far, successfully.

He may soon bankrupt us and replace our big merit-based capitalist economy with a small government-directed one of his own design.

He is undermining our constitutional traditions: The rule of law and our Anglo-Saxon concepts of private property hang in the balance. Obama may be the most "consequential" president ever.

The Wall Street Journal's steadfast Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote that Barack Obama is "an alien in the White House."

His bullying and offenses against the economy and job creation are so outrageous that CEOs in the Business Roundtable finally mustered the courage to call him "anti-business." Veteran Democrat Sen. Max Baucus blurted out that Obama is engineering the biggest government-forced "redistribution of income" in history.

Fear and uncertainty stalk the land. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke says America's financial future is "unusually uncertain."

A Wall Street "fear gauge" based on predicted market volatility is flashing long-term panic. New data on the federal budget confirm that record-setting deficits in the $1.4 trillion range are now endemic.

Obama is building an imperium of public debt and crushing taxes, contrary to George Washington's wise farewell admonition: "cherish public credit ... use it as sparingly as possible ... avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt ... bear in mind, that towards the payment of debts there must be Revenue, that to have Revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised, which are not ... inconvenient and unpleasant ... ."

Opinion polls suggest that in the November mid-term elections, voters will replace the present Democratic majority in Congress with opposition Republicans — but that will not necessarily stop Obama.

A President Obama intent on achieving his transformative goals despite the disagreement of the American people has powerful weapons within reach. In one hand, he will have a veto pen to stop a new Republican Congress from repealing ObamaCare and the Dodd-Frank takeover of banks.

In the other, he will have a fistful of executive orders, regulations and Obama-made fiats that have the force of law.

Under ObamaCare, he can issue new rules and regulations so insidiously powerful in their effect that higher-priced, lower-quality and rationed health care will quickly become ingrained, leaving a permanent stain.

Under Dodd-Frank, he and his agents will control all credit and financial transactions, rewarding friends and punishing opponents, discriminating on the basis of race, gender and political affiliation. Credit and liquidity may be choked by bureaucracy and politics — and the economy will suffer.

He and the EPA may try to impose by "regulatory" fiats many parts of the cap-and-trade and other climate legislation that failed in the Congress.

And by executive orders and the in terrorem effect of an industrywide "boot on the neck" policy, he can continue to diminish energy production in the United States.

By the trick of letting current-law tax rates "expire," he can impose a $3.5 trillion 10-year tax increase that damages job-creating capital investment in an economy struggling to recover. And by failing to enforce the law and leaving America's borders open, he can continue to repopulate America with unfortunate illegals whose skill and education levels are low and whose political attitudes are often not congenial to American-style democracy.

A wounded rampaging president can do much damage — and, like Caesar, the evil he does will live long after he leaves office, whenever that may be.

The overgrown, un-pruned power of the presidency to reward, punish and intimidate may now be so overwhelming that his re-election in 2012 is already assured — Chicago-style.

• Christian, an attorney, was a deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Ford administration.

• Robbins, an economist, served at the Treasury Department in the Reagan administration.

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 09:30:15 PM »
No, there will not be a Second American Revolution. Actually, I think Nixon claimed that his economic reforms in 1968 or 69 were a "Second American Revolution".

The government could be changed by an election, and barely conceivably by a rightwing coup, but an overthrow by NRA members with their puny firearms will never happen.
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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 09:39:05 PM »
Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?

Uh yes....no doubt...eventually.
I predict a "Balkanization".
Hopefully it wont have to be overly violent.
And once it's done it will be funny to watch the non-producers watch the producers thrive bigtime after being freed from the leeches!

"Balkanization is a pejorative geopolitical term originally used to describe the process of fragmentation or division
of a region or state into smaller regions or states that are often hostile or non-cooperative with each other".
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 10:15:42 PM »
November is key

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 10:26:56 PM »
Are we all that frustrated with waiting our turn?

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 10:35:13 PM »
the last time we had our turn was with Reagan.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2010, 12:20:07 AM by Kramer »

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 11:32:47 PM »
Obama was a big disappointment to a lot of people and the aspirations for real change which propelled him to a decisive election victory have all evaporated by now.  Also evaporated by now is George W. Bush's dismal record of lies, wars, torture and financial collapse.  Obama won't have the Bush record to run against any more and he won't have the support of those Americans who, like me, once believed in him. 

The "failures" of the Obama administration are mostly in the eyes of the beholder.  To those who think that half a loaf is better than none, his health-care reform was a victory.  To those who believe in active governmental management of the economy, bail-outs, stimulus spending and getting a grip on General Motors were all victories.  Failure or not, the administration was a huge disappointment to Obama's more left-of-centre supporters.

In the end, without the support of his most enthusiastic former supporters, Obama will lose in 2012.  Hopefully some moderate Republican will emerge who is able to put the conservative wing of the GOP back in its cage, but moderate or Palinesque, the GOP gets back the White House next time around, no Second American Revolution necessary.  The idea was ludicrous.

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 11:41:53 PM »
"Palinesque"...."Palinesque"....


Nicely coined word ,I like it!

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2010, 12:26:28 AM »
Obama was a big disappointment to a lot of people and the aspirations for real change which propelled him to a decisive election victory have all evaporated by now.  Also evaporated by now is George W. Bush's dismal record of lies, wars, torture and financial collapse.  Obama won't have the Bush record to run against any more and he won't have the support of those Americans who, like me, once believed in him. 

The "failures" of the Obama administration are mostly in the eyes of the beholder.  To those who think that half a loaf is better than none, his health-care reform was a victory.  To those who believe in active governmental management of the economy, bail-outs, stimulus spending and getting a grip on General Motors were all victories.  Failure or not, the administration was a huge disappointment to Obama's more left-of-centre supporters.

In the end, without the support of his most enthusiastic former supporters, Obama will lose in 2012.  Hopefully some moderate Republican will emerge who is able to put the conservative wing of the GOP back in its cage, but moderate or Palinesque, the GOP gets back the White House next time around, no Second American Revolution necessary.  The idea was ludicrous.

But Barry likes the parties, free golf, flying around in the big jet, entertaining sports figures and putting his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office ---- so he won't leave without a fight.

Gee that description sounds like that of a 16 year old boy... Barry the boy hasn't grown up, hasn't grown into the president many of our past leaders were capable of doing. Yes indeed our man-child president is a real disappointment.

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 12:36:07 AM »
Not sooooooo fast Michael Teeeeeeeeee!
I still predict Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.
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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 12:40:00 AM »
Not sooooooo fast Michael Teeeeeeeeee!
I still predict Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.

depends on november,

big repub wins could bode

well for hillary in 2012.

bur still I say nope the

country will be way too

tired of dems by then...

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 01:15:29 AM »
<<Not sooooooo fast Michael Teeeeeeeeee!
<<I still predict Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.>>

For that to happen, she'd have to wrest the Democratic nomination from Obama's hands.  Only American history buffs could tell when a sitting first-term President didn't get his party's nod to run for a second term when willing to run.  LBJ doesn't count because he withdrew himself from the race.  It might be tough for Hillary to win her own party's nomination unless Obama turns out to be not merely disappointing but a Bush-level disaster for the nation.

Assuming that Hillary could beat out Obama for the nomination (a big assumption) then she might have a decent shot at the White House, particularly against a twit like Palin.  She'd have the advantage of her current high-profile experience and her obvious intelligence and competence would make her tough to beat, even against moderate GOP candidates.  (Against Palin, I believe it would be a slaughter.  Her best campaign ally would be Palin herself, every time she opened her mouth.)

Actually, the more I think about this, the better Hillary's chances look.  Obama doesn't have the deep-rooted Party connections that the Clintons and their supporters do.  His win over Hillary was primarily due to his "outsider" magnetism and the (now exploded) promise of hope and change.  With that gone, Hillary has a good shot at replacing Obama as candidate and then a good shot at an election win as well.  CU4 may well be right.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 11:07:37 AM »
I do not see Hillary running until 2016. I am sure that we will not have two women running an major candidates in the same election. If the Democrats run Clinton, then the Republicans will want to get the woman-hater vote. There are a lot of women as well as many, many men who do not thing a woman can lead this country. After all, women are so namby-pamby on war, which has become a rite of passage.

We will nor see two non-white candidates, either. So Jindal will not be allowed to face Obama. It is barely conceivable that Clinton and Jindal could face off.

I find CU4's division of people into moochers and upright citizens laughable. There are different kinds of moochers: are the Haitians with foodstamps costing us more than the companies that are building a new carrier group that the Navy does not even want comparable? The contractors don't cut in lines and work in pairs, with one in line checking out and another bringing ever more stuff to the register while I wait patiently to check out. I always get behind the people with the fewest number of items. This time I was snookered. Next time I will have to check for pairs of Haitians.

The rabid hatred of the ratbag right is great, but not shared by most Americans. Obama has done more than the GOP wanted him to do, and they are furious, not about his failures, but his successes. He is still a superior choice over Madman McCain and Celebrity Palin.
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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2010, 11:22:22 AM »
I do not see Hillary running until 2016. I am sure that we will not have two women running an major candidates in the same election. If the Democrats run Clinton, then the Republicans will want to get the woman-hater vote. There are a lot of women as well as many, many men who do not thing a woman can lead this country. After all, women are so namby-pamby on war, which has become a rite of passage.

We will nor see two non-white candidates, either. So Jindal will not be allowed to face Obama. It is barely conceivable that Clinton and Jindal could face off.

I find CU4's division of people into moochers and upright citizens laughable. There are different kinds of moochers: are the Haitians with foodstamps costing us more than the companies that are building a new carrier group that the Navy does not even want comparable? The contractors don't cut in lines and work in pairs, with one in line checking out and another bringing ever more stuff to the register while I wait patiently to check out. I always get behind the people with the fewest number of items. This time I was snookered. Next time I will have to check for pairs of Haitians.

The rabid hatred of the ratbag right is great, but not shared by most Americans. Obama has done more than the GOP wanted him to do, and they are furious, not about his failures, but his successes. He is still a superior choice over Madman McCain and Celebrity Palin.


Most of that was a diatribe of utter nonsense. I must be further in the evolution process than you for I think there is no problem with Palin and Hillary against each other or Jindal and Obama. What is this woman-hater vote? For you to even think that up makes you suspect that you are part of that hate group. Honestly what kind of asshole even thinks shit like this up?

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Re: Will Washington's Failures Lead To Second American Revolution?
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 11:30:05 AM »
There are many people in this country who will not vote for a woman. Everyone knows this. I am not one of them, but not to recognize reality is a mistake. There will not be two women as Republican and Democrat facing none another in the near future. This rarely happens in other countries as well. Most women leaders are not elected as such by voters, but by a parliament in a parliamental system.

Enjoy living in your fictional world, don't get mad at me for pointing out that it is fictional.
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