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sirs

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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2006, 01:37:27 AM »
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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2006, 09:59:39 AM »
<<And with all that hot air . . . >>

"All that hot air" being a very simple explanation for a very simple mind, of how Bush could in fact know a lot about what goes on in US military prisons if in fact he had the slightest interest in stopping torture.  Directed at someone who asked the very foolish rhetorical question, amountng to whether Bush can see into every prison cell.  And - - of course - - never rebutted with either fact or logic.  How CAN it be, when it's true?  But at least, such reasoning can always be dismissed as "hot air."  It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

 Here's some more evidence of the never-never fantasyland inhabited by conservative minds, a world where the most nefarious deeds are meticulously documented by the top leaders, probably for the express purpose of assisting future war-crimes prosecutors.  If Bush ever DID torture in such a fantasy world, he wouldn't DREAM of doing so without leaving a trail of memos and other incriminating evidence behind him, a mile wide and a thousand miles long, so that nobody could fail to find it.

<<still the fact remains, no proof, no smoking gun, no evidence what-so-ever, outside of your Bush hating blinders as to Bush having anything to do with what happened with these Green Berets, or any torturing by any anomolous service men for that matter  . . . .>>

Isn't that CUTE?  He's still looking for evidence.  Despite all the dots just waiting to be connected, he's still waiting with BT for evidence.  The "smoking gun."  The video tape of Bush and the cattle prod.  Or water board.  The handwritten memo.  Evidence.  You know, the kind of stuff that links Hitler to the Holocaust.  All those smoking guns.  Those handwritten memos.  Those caught-by-the-camera-in-the-torture-chamber black & White newsflicks.  Oh.  Wait.  They don't exist.  Yeah, corresponding with these guys can be infectious.  For a minute there, I thought I was actually in the conservative fantasy world.

sirs

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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2006, 11:41:13 AM »
Isn't that CUTE?  He's still looking for evidence

Yea, I'm funny that way.  I prefer facts to support asanine allegations.  Not simply the say so of an overt Anti-american communist who still thinks that Bush would have sat on 911 had he known in advance.  Your "dots" currently couldn't even be connected to draw a pencil, much less point to Bush knowing & authorizing such torture
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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2006, 01:57:38 PM »
<<I prefer facts to support asanine allegations.>>

 Don't we all?

The question is, Mr. Rationality, what do you do when there isn't any evidence, and when common sense and experience teaches you there WON'T be any evidence?  sit back and call the allegation "asinine" without any attempt to figure it out by appeals to common sense,  logic and the experience of everyday life ?  Or is it more like, "Oh, no smoking gun, eh?  Then I guess Hitler DIDN'T have anything to do with the Holocaust after all."  Typical of the crypto-fascist mentality, I suppose, and one good explanation of why the country's in the midst of its longest downslide ever, with no end in sight.

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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2006, 02:06:00 PM »
The question is, Mr. Rationality, what do you do when there isn't any evidence, and when common sense and experience teaches you there WON'T be any evidence?

When there's actually logic behind someone's warped notion of "common sense", then perhaps we can actually entertain such accusatory fantasy.  Until then, the continued mutated mentaliity that the lack of evidence is proof of such conduct, remains your continued fantasy world, while the rest of us look in with a grin, being entertained

What rational people do when there's zilch to back up their accusations, is back off from trying to make it sound as if their accusations are indeed fact vs pure supposition, based nothing more than on your version of common sense multiplied by your hatred of Bush & the U.S. military
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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2006, 12:42:05 AM »
I just realised that there is no evidence existant that MT is an official torturer for the Canadian inqusition.


Not even the slightest shred, what extremes of information supression must this require?

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Re: Shaping the Topic: the NIE memo
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2006, 03:37:15 AM »
I just realised that there is no evidence existant that MT is an official torturer for the Canadian inqusition.  Not even the slightest shred, what extremes of information supression must this require?

Given his predisposition to supporting the death penatly, and overt hatred towards anything not socialist, common sense would dictate that such a scenario must be true, and that these egregious acs must have widespread support for such information to be so well covered up.  No?     ;)
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