A Picture is Worth 1,000 Words

[BT]

He does?  wow, didn't realize you were aware of a mass of Muslim women about to have some huge organized sit down in lower Manhattan, with no intentions of being moved.  Do tell

Burkas are as symbolic a representation of Islam as nuns in habits are of Catholicism. If symbolic representation of a religion (which you stated was the reason for your objection to the Mosque) so close to hallowed ground is insensitive and insulting, would you be in favor of banning burkas within that half mile radius. So as not to offend, ya know.

[sirs]

Burkas are indeed symbolic, but trying to compare 1 burka that moves in and around Manhattan, vs a massive structure standing in the shadow of what was once the WTC, is kinda ..... misleading, doncha think?

[BT]

Offensive is offensive, insulting is insulting. The religion of Islam is the insult. Because Bin Laden practiced it.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Offensive is offensive, insulting is insulting. The religion of Islam is the insult. Because Bin Laden practiced it.

Sports Illustrated Swim Suit Issue is Hustler!
 

[BT]

Sports Illustrated Swim Suit Issue is Hustler!

Depends on the sensitivity of the offended.

[Xavier_Onassis]

They do not need anyone's permission to build the mosque. It is not "in the shadow" of the nonexistent WTC, nor will it ever be in the shadow of anything that they eventually build on that site.

One issue is whether they have the right to build their mosque or whatever it is on the property they own. They do, and no matter who is elected to whatever political office, this will not change.
The other issue is whether it is a good idea to build this at the present time. You can agree or disagree on this, but it will not change the legal right to build.

There is no legal "problem" to solve.

[sirs]

Offensive is offensive, insulting is insulting.

And perspective is perspective.  My 3 bedroom single story home is a house, so is the White House.  A derringer is a gun, so is a 50caliber machine gun 

The religion of Islam is the insult. Because Bin Laden practiced it.

Bzzz, wrong.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Depends on the sensitivity of the offended.

EXACTLY!

[sirs]

They do not need anyone's permission to build the mosque....There is no legal "problem" to solve.

Good thing that was never an issue, in the 1st place.  Care to refute another position that sas never made?

[BT]

Quote from: BT on Today at 11:35:07 AM
The religion of Islam is the insult. Because Bin Laden practiced it.

Bzzz, wrong.

Then what is the insult?

[sirs]

Bt, I've already answered that multiple times.  My suggestion is to contact some of the 911 family members to better answer your question, since you apparently don't intend on reading mine

[BT]

Actually you have never answered the question consistently.

First it was the location. You didn't have a problem with a Mosque being built 1/2 mile out, but you did with it being built 600 ft out.

And the reason a Mosque so close to Ground Zero would be insulting is because it represents the religion of Islam.

And the reason the religion of Islam would be offensive is because bin Laden practiced that religion and the attacks on the WTC were done in Islam's name, at least in Bin Ladens and the attackers mind.

What you have never answered is whether the religion of Islam is to be held accountable for Bin Ladens actions.

perhaps the nuances of this issue are above my paygrade, but i don't understand the linkage between the two.

I would be glad to discuss this with the 9/11 families, but since they don't post on this board i guess you and others who have displayed disgust with this project will have to do.

[sirs]

Actually you have never answered the question consistently.

Actually, I have, and its always been about location.  Not the 1st, but the current.  It remains the foundation to the issue, and remains that if it were built out of ear & eye shot of the WTC shadow, we wouldn't be having this discussion

[Christians4LessGvt]

Hey maybe if more Muslims motivated by religion bomb more US cities
BT and Barack Hussein Obama can be good little kafirs and
support Muslims building mosques on every sight they drop a bomb.
Yeah! thats a great idea....if Muslims drop the Sears Tower in Chicago
quickly get Muslims in Saudi Arabia and other undemocratic Muslim
nations to cough up the money to build more "Victory Mosques" at
every site in America they bomb or destroy! The American People
should love the idea! Let Freedom Ring, Democracy intended to
commit suicide!

[BT]

Hey maybe if more Muslims motivated by religion bomb more US cities
BT and Barack Hussein Obama can be good little kafirs and
support Muslims building mosques on every sight they drop a bomb.
Yeah! thats a great idea....if Muslims drop the Sears Tower in Chicago
quickly get Muslims in Saudi Arabia and other undemocratic Muslim
nations to cough up the money to build more "Victory Mosques" at
every site in America they bomb or destroy! The American People
should love the idea! Let Freedom Ring, Democracy intended to
commit suicide!

So now the builders of this Mosque are Muslim bombers.
And that is based on what? Their religion?