Former Dem Pres Candidate & DNC Chairman opposes Ground Zero Mosque!

[sirs]

Admitting that Muslims have the same right to have a place of worship as anyone else would be, for them, like admitting defeat, and of course that means no vengeance.

Love refuting points no one is making??  Because of course you can demonstrate the plethora of quotes that Muslims don't have such a right, by folks like Dean & Reid.  Right??

Word of advice.....try to inhibit this knee jerk reaction to lump everyone that disagrees with you as some ratwing reactionary.  You won't look quite so.....idiotic

[Michael Tee]

Sorting through the BS and trying to fine some coherent, sensible reason to oppose the GZ Mosque.  Impossible task.

<<Former Dem Pres Candidate & DNC Chairman Howard Dean: Ground Zero Mosque a "real affront to people who lost their lives.">>

Totally stupid remark, since nobody who lost their lives at Ground Zero had had the foresight to appoint Dean as their spokesman, so he’s really speaking only for himself.   Basically all he’s really saying is that building the mosque is an affront to HIM.   BFD, since not building the mosque would be an affront to somebody else.  The issue shouldn’t be, who’s gonna be affronted (because however the issue is decided, somebody’s gonna be affronted)  but what’s wrong with building the mosque on grounds other than who will or won’t be “affronted.”

<< . . . they just want to piss 2/3 of us off>>

Sorta like putting Confederate battle flags on the old pick-up truck?  Or over the State capitol?  Sounds to me like it comes well within the framework of First Amendment rights.  Or are you against anyone having the right to piss off 2/3 of the American people?  When you think how many people in the world are pissed off at the U.S.A., 2/3 seems like a pretty modest amount of people to want to piss off, doesn’t it?  And of course if your mind-reading skills are off by only 50%, they (the GZ Mosque people) really want to befriend Americans, and not piss them off.  Which is a good reason why arguments based on mind-reading probably aren’t the most convincing of arguments.  For example, I could easily penetrate the mind of the mind-readers themselves and say that they just want to whip up religious hatred of Muslims.  Where would it all end?

<<This isn't a fight about religious freedom for Muslims.  No one has argued they don't have the property rights. This is about a project led by someone who says he's trying to build bridges and bring the community together and he's chosen probably the worst place in America and the worst way to do it.''>>  [quote from the pea-brained sister of one of the pilots murdered in the Sept. 11 attacks]

People don’t want them to put up a mosque in a place where nobody would object to a church or synagogue, but it’s “not about religious freedom for Muslims.”  LMFAO at the dumb twit.  Then what IS it about?

<< he's chosen probably the worst place in America . . .>>

It’s an OK place for anything else, a pizza parlour, a movie theatre, offices, a library, a church or a synagogue - -  only for a mosque is it “the worst place in America.”  But it’s not about the religious freedom of Muslims.  Right.  Does the phrase “transparently stupid” mean anything to you, lady?  How about “venomously bigoted?”

[Plane]

Hallowed my ass.  If all it takes to "hallow" a place is that a whole shitload of people got whacked there at one time or another, the whole fucking planet is probably "hallowed ground" by now.

Why doesn't everyone cut the bullshit and admit that they don't want to see a mosque at Ground Zero because Ground Zero is a focal point for whipping up anti-Muslim hatred and allowing a mosque to be built there indicates some degree of forgiveness and/or tolerance for the Muslim faith that the haters do not wish to concede?  That the mosque on the site would kind of dilute the message of unrelenting hatred that they hope to generate from the site?

Is a Mosque that casts its shadow onto ground zero useless for the purpose of "whipping up anti-Muslim hatred "?If whipping up these feelings is someones goal the builders of this Mosque are playing right into their hands.

It is true that they have a constitutionally protected right that includes building a mosque right there , or even closer.

I imagine could have a right to build right on the old foundation of the WTC if it were for sale.

But it is not smart  .

Also the offended have a right to be offended and a constitutionally protected right to say so.

[Xavier_Onassis]

You have every right to protest, just as Tee says. The same thing is true for putting a Stars and Bars flag of monumental proportions and driving it through the Black part of town, or putting on swastika armbands and marching around the Synagogue or cemetery

But it is a bigoted and stupid thing to do. You have a constitutional right to bigotry and stupidity.

[sirs]

Sorting through the BS and trying to fine some coherent, sensible reason to oppose the GZ Mosque.  Impossible task......<snip>

But it is a bigoted and stupid thing to do. You have a constitutional right to bigotry and stupidity.

[Kramer]

"You have a constitutional right to bigotry and stupidity".

For as long as you have been doing  bigotry and stupidity clearly you learned long ago about your rights.