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sirs

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2010, 08:14:06 PM »
Choice is choice.  Terrorist acts are terrorist acts.  Sitting on a bus is sitting on a bus.  Lack of compassion is lack of compassion.  Intolerance is go pound sand

Your minimization, if not outright abandonment of compassion sounds like you think Stalin's actions were less evil than the Wright Brothers

(It's an apples to not apples kinda thing, you seem bent on employing)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2010, 08:20:35 PM »
Au contraire, i have great compassion for those who lost loved ones on 9-11.

I just don't buy their reasons or yours for not wanting the mosque at the specified location. And because the reason is based on prejudice, yes they can go pound sand.




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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2010, 08:25:46 PM »
Thanks for reinforcing the lack of compassion and intolerance, at issue, with the point of "the specified location".  Having the right doesn't automatically make it right.  Yes, we can move on now
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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2010, 08:34:09 PM »
Giving in to prejudice perpetuates prejudice.

And why on earth would you give up property rights for a wrongful reason.




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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2010, 09:05:00 AM »
How strong could a nation be that it sacrifices its core principles for fear that a small group would rejoice at a perceived victory symbol so close to ground zero?



Is "tolerant" the same thing as "strong"?

Toleration is for things you don't like , I never say that I will "tolerate" a ham and egg buskit with a coffee.

I think that our toleration is proven in that the Mosque is being built as we speak of it , in spite of widespread agreement that the thing is really in poor taste.


If the Muslims do not like having it pointed out that they are deaf and blind to good taste , manners and civil behavior , well then it is time for them to learn some tolerance.

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2010, 01:53:36 PM »
It would be wonderful if the Iman and his followers were guilty of bad taste, ill-manners and uncivil behavior when it is pointed out to them.


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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2010, 08:48:52 PM »
It would be wonderful if the Iman and his followers were guilty of bad taste, ill-manners and uncivil behavior when it is pointed out to them.



Can a person on a Karachi street dress as perfectly acceptable on the beaches of Spain?

Can a person eat roast beef at a table of a Jain's? 

When you are out of place should you be bolder?

Is civility in the eye of the beholder?

Can any deeper universal value releive a boor of his cares and pain?




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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2010, 08:52:09 PM »
Why on earth would a Muslim in New York City be out of place? Have you ever ridden in a cab there?

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2010, 09:04:05 PM »
Why on earth would a Muslim in New York City be out of place? Have you ever ridden in a cab there?



He isn't out of place if he is adapted to mesh well with his neighbors.

New York must be one of the worlds most polygot communitys. It takes real effort to exceed the limits of the community there.

So when one finds himself outside the limits should one demand looser limits or examine self?

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2010, 09:25:02 PM »
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So when one finds himself outside the limits should one demand looser limits or examine self?

Good question.

Should an interracial couple feel free to wonder the malls of Warner Robins? Would they have been offensive within your memory?

How about an interracial gay couple?

Would they be asked to worship elsewhere by the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church?

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Re: Moon Phase
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2010, 09:36:54 PM »
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So when one finds himself outside the limits should one demand looser limits or examine self?

Good question.

Should an interracial couple feel free to wonder the malls of Warner Robins? Would they have been offensive within your memory?

How about an interracial gay couple?

Would they be asked to worship elsewhere by the folks at the Westboro Baptist Church?
  Interacial couples are common here , remember we are an Air Force town , we are probly more integrated than Atlanta , which is itself more integrated than any town north of the Mason Dixon line.

    Gay people still draw stares , which when they are dressed to flaunt , I think is wht they must want.

When you bring in the Westboro Baptist Church we get to a better question of how much should we tolerate them? Does their first admendment right extend as far as protecting their intolerance? I would not suggest to any sane person that they join the Westboro Baptist Church, and whether any Muslim should is a moot question since as they joined they would no longer be Muslim.