KO KO'd

[sirs]

If KO comes out and says he was wrong, sees the error of his way, is contrite and sincere, precisely similar to the parameters of your addicts advocating that they shouldn't use drugs any longer, THEN we can remove the mantle of Hypocrisy

Until then, he's a hypocrite for bashing Fox for similar acts he just got suspended for.  It's really quite that simple

[BT]

It's really quite that simple

Actually it isn't.

He simply has to not bash Fox and the stench of hypocrisy if it even exists is removed miraculously from his aura.

It's not like he did something ridiculous like rob a bank. He made a political donation, something CU and I have certainly done when circumstances warranted it.

[sirs]

Actually, it is. 

And last time, this has nothing to do with simply having made a donation.  This is not a free speech issue

[BT]

The ACT itself which apparently triggers the hypocrisy is certainly a legal act protected by free speech, though it was against company policy.

The railing against others and then doing the same thing later on, is the issue Bozell had, though he seemed to blur the time-line as to when the railing and contributions occurred.

You are certainly free to condemn based on your definition of hypocrisy, what it is and when precisely it occurs, but then you will have to live with that definition, because to do otherwise would be hypocritical, under your definition.

I am on the other hand free to evaluate the situation based on my definition, with its attendant conditions and caveats and am perfectly willing to conduct my own business accordingly, absent fear of being labeled with the scarlet letter of hypocrisy, as if others opinions matter.

Because being true to oneself is what really matters. Which I'm sure KO considered when he weighed the risks involved in his action.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Now that Olbermann is back on the air, his ratings have risen.

That is beneficial to both him AND the network.

If we accept the ruling that money is speech, then it is a free speech issue. The issue then is whether MSNBC has the right to limit the free speech in form of donations, of its employees. The government cannot bar its employees from donating to any political cause.

[sirs]

That's a whole different arguement there Xo, in need of a new thread, since no one is arguing that KO shouldn't be able to donate to whomever he wants

[BT]

That's a whole different arguement there Xo, in need of a new thread, since no one is arguing that KO shouldn't be able to donate to whomever he wants

No but they are arguing that making a political donation, makes him a hypocrite.

The shame of it all.

[sirs]

That's a whole different arguement there Xo, in need of a new thread, since no one is arguing that KO shouldn't be able to donate to whomever he wants

No but they are arguing that making a political donation, makes him a hypocrite.

No, they're not.  They're argueing that making a political donation as an employee of a Cable news orgainzation WHILE bashing another Cable news organization for alledgedly making political donations, makes him a hypocrite

Then again, you knew that

The shame of it all.

Something we can agree on

[BT]

Oops my bad. I forgot to graffiti it up with an 

[sirs]

Ahhh, much better

[Xavier_Onassis]

That's a whole different arguement there Xo, in need of a new thread, since no one is arguing that KO shouldn't be able to donate to whomever he wants
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That is precisely what MSNBC stated, and had they not suspended KO ofr doing this, there would be no post on this subject at all. This is the essential part of the issue.

KO simply revealed that FOX (the organization, NOT the commentators) donated millions to Fox. Then MSNBC revealed that KO donated thousands to a couple of congressmen.

So now the public knows who gave what to whom. That is better than not knowing.

[sirs]

So, your issue is with MSNBC and their policies.  Fine, rant away.  But no one here is claiming that KO doesn't have a right to donate to whomever he wants.......thus, not a free speech issue, as far as why KO is being bashed by folks like myself. 

(BTW, I love how Fox apparently donated to itself, Fox    )

[BT]

MSNBC says KO can't donate to whom he wants. And that was strongly condemned by most members of this forum.

And you say KO can't donate to whom he wants without suffering the withering charges from you and the likes of Bozell that he is a hypocrite.

So the chilling effect of your disdain very well might interfere with his free speech rights.

[sirs]

MSNBC says KO can't donate to whom he wants. And that was strongly condemned by most members of this forum.

1st one, right

And you say KO can't donate to whom he wants without suffering the withering charges from you and the likes of Bozell that he is a hypocrite.

2nd one, Wrong.  Then again, we've already been over this, and you're simply not going to budge from an issue that it never was

So the chilling effect of your disdain very well might interfere with his free speech rights.

Too bad, that's not the issue, and never has been.  Keep digging though

[BT]

Quote from: BT on Today at 01:00:34 PM
And you say KO can't donate to whom he wants without suffering the withering charges from you and the likes of Bozell that he is a hypocrite.

2nd one, Wrong.  Then again, we've already been over this, and you're simply not going to budge from an issue that it never was

So you are no longer saying KO is a hypocrite. Must have missed that post. Perhaps you can provide a link to where you changed course once again.