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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2010, 04:51:18 PM »
Nope, in fact I thought it was pretty clear what I was "claiming".  Lemme copy & paste: It was just funny that you not only pick a piece that had very little with the point being made, but it was from the NTimes to boot.
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2010, 07:29:15 PM »
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Well, nice that you can now be compared to the NYTimes.  Because we know just how credible and "fair" they are

And i suppose this post was not to be taken seriously?

What percentage of your posts should be taken seriously?


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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2010, 07:56:05 PM »
Apparently being provided clarification, isn't your strong suit
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2010, 06:29:52 AM »
An increase of .2% in anything cannot be described as a "jump".
It may not be a good thing, but a jump is is not.

A .2% increase in Wall Street is not a jump, either. You need 3.0% for that, at least.
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2010, 10:15:58 AM »
I consider it a jump, especially for those who have lost their jobs and have suffered under this administration's policies.

I'm sure it would take an unemployment rate of over 12% for you to consider it a "jump." But that's because you have your lips sutured to Obama's ass. What else is new.

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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2010, 12:35:11 PM »
It's indeed a "jump" for 2 reasons.  1) the administration and many of their economists were actually expecting a bump in the other direction, so for it to go negative, was quite the neck jerker.  2) IIRC, Unemployment rarely moves an entire percentage point, from 1 cycle to the next.  Using Xo's parameters of a whole 3% is largely ridiculous, since under those parameters there'd never be a "jump"
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2010, 12:50:39 PM »
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As it relates to actually believeing (vs my simple errors that were corrected) Obama would actually allow some of his signature "accomplishments" be (got a hold my laughter here) overidden by congress in the 1st place....yea, that'd be you

So what are those signature accomplishments?

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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2010, 01:10:07 PM »
SOME of those accomplishments that were achieved incl:
Obamacare
Stimulus Packages
Bailout Packages (including the taking over and/or direct Governmental overseeing of multiple enterprises, from Banks, To Automobile companies, to the Student Loan Programs)

I could go on, but those are the biggies
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2010, 01:17:14 PM »
SOME of those accomplishments that were achieved incl:
Obamacare
Stimulus Packages
Bailout Packages (including the taking over and/or direct Governmental overseeing of multiple enterprises, from Banks, To Automobile companies, to the Student Loan Programs)

I could go on, but those are the biggies

And which of these do you expect the GOP to try to roll back, therefore requiring an Obama veto?

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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2010, 01:21:22 PM »
None....they don't have the votes
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2010, 01:40:22 PM »
None....they don't have the votes

They certainly have the votes in the House, and it appears they can build a coalition in the Senate that would give them those votes.



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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2010, 01:50:36 PM »
Reality keeps getting in the way I'm afraid, especially in the Senate.  Not to mention the 2/3 vote it'd take to overide a veto.  But I like your optimism
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2010, 02:02:55 PM »
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Reality keeps getting in the way I'm afraid, especially in the Senate.  Not to mention the 2/3 vote it'd take to overide a veto.

Depends on how they go about it. We have already seen that Obama is willing to settle for less than he asked for, as the public option compromise has shown.


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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2010, 02:46:06 PM »
"Compromise" on core principles is not a way "to go about it".  If that's what you were hinting at.  And Obamacare was STILL ramrodded thru, bypassing the normal legislative process to negate any filibuster

So, reality is still your biggest obstacle in believing that Obama would actually allow any of his prodigious "accomplishments" go by the wayside, after having been passed into law, in the 1st place
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Re: Unemployment jumps to 9.8%
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2010, 04:09:55 PM »
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"Compromise" on core principles is not a way "to go about it".

That is certainly what Obama, Pelosi and Reid did. And if they did it once, they will do it again.

How is that for a reality check?