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Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« on: December 05, 2010, 11:23:56 PM »
According to the Detroit Free Press and Detroit News, Helen Thomas said, "Congress, the White House and Hollywood, Wall Street are owned by the Zionists. No question."


















I wonder if Helen is related to Danny Thomas?

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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 12:03:47 AM »
It is hardly anti-Semitic to say that Jews have a major influence in Hollywood or banking. It is also true that Congress and the White House are clearly biased in favor of Israel, and have been since the 1950's.

Helen Thomas and Danny Thomas are Maronite Christian Lebanese. Thomas is a common surname among members of this group. This is a free country, and she has as much right to express herself as you do.
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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 01:50:33 AM »
I got no knowledge of that,but I do notice in tv and movies jews are not exactly portrayed positively.
you`d think afew jewish action heroes would be pop up once in awhile

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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 01:51:07 AM »
zohan doesn`t count

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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 01:59:00 AM »
How about Ziva David


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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 03:17:59 AM »
wow
did not see that coming.
I don`t understand why they cast a chilean girl for that role.
thiers quite afew isreali actress who could of done and some of them did serve in the isreali army


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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 03:26:44 AM »
>>Congress, the White House and Hollywood, Wall Street are owned by the Zionists. No question.<<

This, zee Jews control zee world crap more often then not is generated from an anti-Semitic frame of reference.

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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 03:35:50 AM »
i bet if they did a study of the US homeless and those in prison
Jews would not account for a very high percentage....
Ummmmm wonder why that is?
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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2010, 06:27:25 AM »
Ummmmm wonder why that is?
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Could it be because Jews have tons of money, perhaps?
You will find few urban Anglos or Iranians or Armenians in prison for the same reason.

The prisons are filled with the poor. Jewish crime, like Wasp crime, is along the lines of fraud and embezzlement.

The film Inglorious Basterds featured a whole army of Jewish military heroes, which was historically as inaccurate as a film about Black Confederate commandos would be.Note that the director, Tarantino, was NOT Jewish

There have been a number of Israeli action hero films, like The Soldier. They have modestly popular in the US.

Hollywood Jews know that the public is not really all that interested in Jewish action heroes, because the Jewish population is older than average and action hero movies are made for the young. It you want to make a lot of money on a film, you can't cater to the 3% of the population that is Jewish or the .5% that is Jewish and under 30. The major purpose of making a film is making money, not making propaganda.

If you want to make a lot of money from Jews on a movie, you need to make a Holocaust movie. This raises the odds of getting an Oscar immensely. What we suffered is more appealing to Jews than films about How we made them suffer. In the latter case, keep in mind that Israelis are seen as annoying bullies in much of the3 world. This is not a vision that Hollywood wishes to project.
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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2010, 06:46:48 AM »
>>The major purpose of making a film is making money, not making propaganda.<<

Well, if you feel that's the case then ask yourself what the purpose is in saying that the Jews control Hollywood? I would say the purpose in saying it, and the purpose in saying they control congress, the White House, etc. etc., is to say that it is control and the pushing of pro-Israeli propaganda they are after.


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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2010, 08:05:44 AM »
Could it be because Jews have tons of money, perhaps?

Ok now that we have that distraction behind us...
(but in reality I know tons of non-rich Jews)
again the same question applies
why?....do jews "have tons of money"?
ummmm wonder why?
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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2010, 09:36:10 PM »
Superman is Jewish.


http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Superman.html


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....when a couple of Jewish boys from Ohio were paid $130 for the very first Superman story. (Today, a mint condition copy of that comic book, if you're lucky enough to find one, will set you back almost a half-million bucks).

The 1930s and 1940s were arguably the most anti-Semitic period in American history. The German-American Bund marched legions of rabid followers through many cities, including the hometown of those two young men, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, in response - the writer and illustrator invented the most famous comic book superhero of all time.

From the very beginning, the Superman mythos reflected his creators' Jewish backgrounds. For example, the superhero's origin story (as fans refer to it) bears more than a passing resemblance to the great Exodus tale. Jochebed places Moses in a reed basket and sets him afloat on the Nile before he can be killed by the Pharaoh's henchmen. Likewise, Superman's father Jor-El launches a little rocket ship containing his son into outer space when he realizes Krypton is about to disintegrate. That symbol comes full circle in the new film, when Superman journeys back to earth in the very same type of space pod.

Superman and his nebbish alter ego Clark Kent are ....


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/superman.html

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Despite his superhuman powers, Superman shared some characteristic traits with a majority of American Jews in the 1940s. Like them, he had arrived in America from a foreign world. His entire family—in fact his entire race—had been wiped out in a holocaust-like disaster on his home planet, Krypton. Like German Jewish parents who sent their children on the kindertransports, or the baby Moses set adrift in the bull rushes, Superman's parents launched him to Earth in hopes that he would survive. And while the mild-mannered Clark Kent held a white collar job as a reporter by day, the “real” man behind Kent's meek exterior was a virile, indestructible crusader for justice. This fantasy must have resonated among American Jews, who felt powerless to help their brethren in the death camps of Europe.



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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2010, 10:40:50 PM »
One reason to say that Jews control Hollywood is because they do control a large part of the film industry.I do not think that this is a plot or a conspiracy to promote Israel, but of course, Jews do care more about Israel than do most Gentile Americans.
Moustapha Akkad, the Syrian born director who made the excellent film "Lion of the Desert" about Omar Mukhtar, played by Anthony Quinn, the Libyan resistance leader against Mussolini's conquest of Libya. The film was financed by Omar Khadaffi, whose grandfather fought with Mukhtar.

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/lion_desert.htm

Following this, Akkad made a biopic about Muhammad, which was essentially banned in the US because of a hostage situation with some fanatic Hanaffi Muslims.

After that, Mukhtar could not get any good director's jobs in Hollywood and dedicated himself to making horror films in the Halloween series, which of course, meant no Oscars, since horror films never get awards.

Nonetheless, Akkad was a great director. But because he had too many associations with other Arabs, he was shut out of the Hollywood mainstream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moustapha_Akkad

Lion of the Desert is a great film, on a par with Lawrence of Arabia. It did tend to make Mussolini, played by Rod Steiger, look like a fool, even though he did managed to defeat Omar and eventually capture and execute him.

 Mohammad, Messenger of God was not so great, as he was banned by Muslims from showing the face of the Prophet and there were a lot of other restrictions. The film was attacked by thousands of Muslims to whom making a film about Mohammad was anathema, and not a big draw for non-Muslims, who are generally uninterested in the life of Mohammad.

There is a lot of interest in Jesus movies, even painfully awful ones (like Mel Gibson's ghastly Passion of the Christ). There is no interest among Muslims for films about Mohammad, being as the depiction of images of all human figures in general and the Prophet in specific are forbidden by Mohammad in the Koran.

It is not a terrible film, but it is painfully long,and assumes that the viewer has a good knowledge of the biography of Mohammad as well as of Arab life, which i confess I do not have. It was like watching the David Lynch film of Dune without having read the Frank Herbert Sci-Fi book, but with subtitles.

It did have the best battle scenes involving camels I have ever seen. I am pretty sure some camels were harmed in shooting that film. (It was done in Morocco, by the way).

Akkad was visiting Jordan and was blown up by a terrorist in 2005.
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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2010, 06:09:58 AM »
>>One reason to say that Jews control Hollywood is because they do control a large part of the film industry.I do not think that this is a plot or a conspiracy to promote Israel, but of course, Jews do care more about Israel than do most Gentile Americans.<<

You keep avoiding the issue. The issue is why do people like Helen Thomas point out that Jews control Hollywood in the same breath that they declare Jews control Wall Street, the congress, the White House, and so forth? I'm not discussing why you might say it. I don't get the impression that you're anti-Semetic.

I'll help you out. It isn't just to point out that they do. You don't hear Helen Thomas go on to say, and the African Americans controled Motown records, and the Motown sound. Or, so the Jews control the money, and the Irish control the FBI.


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Re: Helen Thomas badmouthing Jews, again
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2010, 11:49:10 AM »
Helen Thomas is Lebanese-American. Helen Thomas was fired for badmouthing Israel. I imagine that she is more than a little resentful about that. I cannot say why she said what she said, but it is not entirely untrue: Jews do have a major amount of control in Wall Street, Hollywood and the government, certainly a far higher percentage in all these fields than their percentage in the general population.

It is true that while there are a lot of middle-class Jews, as a rule, Jews place a high value on education and therefore are less likely to be poor. I understand why Jews support Israel: if there were an independent country I could go to and be a citizen of instantly to be surrounded with people like myself, I would support it as well. It is the geopolitical equivalent of having a second home.

On the other hand, I do not support the Zionist land grabs in the West Bank and E.Jerusalem. There needs to be a two-country settlement soon.

 
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