Speaking of Politics as usual

[sirs]

Cash for Croakers is just sooooo wonderful....

The new healthcare law is just so wonderful that the Obama administration's Department of Health and Human Services is handing out compliance waivers to the law left and right.  In fact, the list has doubled in less than a month.  And the list keeps growing, and growing, and growing...

 Advantage Benefits Company, LLC
 Altisource Portfolio Solutions
 American Heritage Life Insurance Company
 Americare Properties, Inc.
 AMN Healthcare
 APWU Health Plan Conversion Plan
 ATCO Rubber Products, Inc
 Baylor County Hospital District
 Bricklayers Local 1 of MD, VA and DC
 Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Ogdensburg
 First Acceptance Corporation
 Fruhauf Uniform Direct Labor
 Grower's Transport LLC
 Hoosier Stamping and Manufacturing Corp.
 Ingomar Packing Company, LLC
 International Brotherhood of Trade Unions Health and Welfare Fund - Local 713
 Local 1102 Amalgamated Welfare Fund
 Local 1102 Health & Benefit Fund
 Local 1102 Welfare Fund-- Lerner Employees
 Local 338 Affiliated Benefit Funds
 Mission Linen Supply
 NFI Industries
 
See the complete list of all 200 waiver beneficiaries (so far)

[Brassmask]

It's stuff like this that will make him a one-termer.  (Or Bush's third term depending on how you look at it.)

[sirs]

Couldn't agree with your premice, any more Brass

[Brassmask]

What I don't understand, sirs, is with all the crap he hasn't done and the way he's rolling over for the GOP constantly, he's still being called a socialist by the right.  That health care bill was the biggest sack of nothing and now he's helping out 32,000 millionaires.  He's worse than CLINTON!

[sirs]

What I don't understand, sirs, is with all the crap he hasn't done and the way he's rolling over for the GOP constantly, he's still being called a socialist by the right.

 

Because his track record and rhetoric, not to mention how he rammed Cash for Croakers thru, demonstrates exactly that.  Swap Cash for Croakers with the tax cuts......Going back 1+year, there's no way in hell he bails on making sure "the rich" get their tax increase.  But come Nov time, there's no way he gets Cash for Croakers passed, even with the ramming process.  Yea, he didn't get everything he wanted, like the Public option, but he pretty much got the Healthcare industry nationalized.  And as he's already said, the current program can be added onto, like Medicare, so that's still his socialist goal.  But to get there, he had to get this passed 1st

That health care bill was the biggest sack of nothing and now he's helping out 32,000 millionaires.  He's worse than CLINTON!

Agreed.  Now in a tie with Carter.  Remind me though.....when's the last time a poor person employed people, much less alot of people.  And I'm referring to adults, not 3rd graders selling lemonaide on the local corner

[Brassmask]

Agreed.  Now in a tie with Carter.  Remind me though.....when's the last time a poor person employed people, much less alot of people.  And I'm referring to adults, not 3rd graders selling lemonaide on the local corner

When the unemployment rate continues to go up after the millionaires get their tax cuts, where will you be?

And, as I understand it, employers prefer to "productivity" over higher employment numbers.  What is the incentive to hire more people when they've got everything humming along just fine with who they already have?

[sirs]

Right behind any politician that has stamped his agenda of dismantling Obama's agenda which has wrought this country it's current economic & unemployment misery

And the incentive is that terribly ugly liberal word.....success.  You're arguing some strange goal of maintaining a status quo.  The more successful the employer --> the more money they take in --> the more employees they can hire --> the more money they can take in --> the more employees they can hire --> ........you get the picture.  

And the more employees --> More Income Tax Revenue to the Fed, as they spend more on products, facilitating increased demand, facilitating increased employers.   The more successful the employer --> the more money they take in --> the more employees they can hire --> the more money they can take in --> the more employees they can hire --> ........ and the cycle is theoretically perpetuated

[Brassmask]

Employees are an added cost to companies.

[sirs]

Offset by the increased revenues brought in by the increased production of x

[BT]

Offset by the increased revenues brought in by the increased production of x

Depends on what the employees does.

[sirs]

Thus my reference to "success".  The ones who are not successful, for whatever reason, flawed product, too much managerial overhead, bad employees, bad leadership, etc. will fail in perpetuating the above referenced cycle.

[BT]

Thus my reference as to whether an employee was attached to a cost center or revenue center.

[Amianthus]

Thus my reference as to whether an employee was attached to a cost center or revenue center.

Doesn't matter; an employee attached to a cost center can save the company money, thereby increasing profits. IT is usually a cost center in most businesses, but I save the companies I work for much more than my pay.

[sirs]

Precisely

[BT]

How much money does a janitor make for the company?