Speaking of Politics as usual

[BT]

Accountants and janitors and other support staff add to the cost of goods sold.

The two easiest ways to raise profits is by raising prices or lowering costs. And raising prices is problematic unless your competition raises their prices at the same time.

[sirs]

We've already addressed the "added cost" arguement.  It's offset by the increased revenues/bottom line by what the "added cost" brought to the company.  If it didn't they wouldn't have them in the 1st place

And the "added cost" is an employee who pays taxes.  I thought socialists loved taxes.

[BT]

It's offset by the increased revenues/bottom line by what the "added cost" brought to the company.

That is based on an assumption you haven't proven, at least for janitors.

[sirs]

The proof is in that they're hired in the 1st place

[Xavier_Onassis]

At some point a janitor becomes essential. If you are selling shredded cheese, not having a janitor might result in rodents getting into the product. It is amazing how just a couple of rat turds can affect the consumer's opinion of a cheese or other food product.

[BT]

The proof is in that they're hired in the 1st place

Actually their hiring is not proof at all that they will add to the bottom line. What it proves is that the company at that point in time was profitable enough to absorb the costs of hiring the janitor.

[sirs]

In other words your non proven position is.......they took "a hit" to their bottom line?  And why would they do that? 

[BT]

The same reason some companies send out for Pizza on casual fridays.

It's a perk. But it doesn't necessarily add to the bottom line.

Meanwhile shall i just assume you have no proof that hiring janitors adds to the profit margin of a company?

[sirs]

Casual Fridays is "a luxury".  Keeping the "house cleaned" is not, especially when it can impact the productivity of those that have the greatest impact on the "bottom line"

And to answer your question, I'll just point you to the non-proven assumption you've made

[BT]

Keeping the "house cleaned" is not, especially when it can impact the productivity of those that have the greatest impact on the "bottom line"

Perhaps you can show where i said that the office should be dirty. Otherwise we can just assume you are misrepresenting my position.

[sirs]

What the hell do you think Janitors do??       

[bsb]

I see. So, Sirs, the worldwide economic meltdown that occurred in the fall of 2008, the meltdown that has Greece, Ireland, Spain, the UK, etc., etc., either bankrupt or on the verge of bankruptcy, isn't part of our present economic uncertainty? Instead, it's the overspending on the part of the democrats that has caused it?

In a word, wow.

bsb

[BT]

What the hell do you think Janitors do??       

They clean. But they by no means have a monopoly on the ability to clean. And again, where did I say the offices should be dirty?

[sirs]

What the hell do you think Janitors do??       

They clean. But they by no means have a monopoly on the ability to clean.

Never said they did, merely that from a bottom line standpoint, they apparently help that business in attaining a better bottom line, than without them.  Otherwise businesses wouldn't use them

So, Sirs, the worldwide economic meltdown that occurred in the fall of 2008, the meltdown that has Greece, Ireland, Spain, the UK, etc., etc., either bankrupt or on the verge of bankruptcy, isn't part of our present economic uncertainty? Instead, it's the overspending on the part of the democrats that has caused it?

In a word, wow.

In 2 words, not quite.  Then again not surprising as you tried to lay it all on Bush's lap, merely because it happened in 2008, even though he had been President since 2001

[BT]

Never said they did, merely that from a bottom line standpoint, they apparently help that business in attaining a better bottom line, than without them.  Otherwise businesses wouldn't use them

Many profitable businesses don't. And yet they manage to show a return on investment as well as keep the offices clean. The absence of a staff janitor does not equal a dirty office. Not sure why you think it does.