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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2010, 09:56:19 PM »
I guess we'll see BT when it goes to court.
but really I dont care to debate the details
of whether we do it this way or that way.
I think we can do it by Congress....but again
I dont care how we do it....I just want to stop
the insanity of anchor babies just like almost
all developed countries in the world have done.
Ireland stopped it in 2004.

Mark Levin explains the 14th amendment
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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2010, 10:00:57 PM »
We'll start with Ann Coulter. She looks like a Nazi collaborator looking for a Nazi to collaborate with. 

I bet she could kick your ass!
Yeah great idea.....
deport educated American citizens & wave in poor, uneducated, non-english speaking masses of lawbreaking people.
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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2010, 10:56:11 PM »
I guess we'll see BT when it goes to court.
but really I dont care to debate the details
of whether we do it this way or that way.
I think we can do it by Congress....but again
I dont care how we do it....I just want to stop
the insanity of anchor babies just like almost
all developed countries in the world have done.
Ireland stopped it in 2004.

Mark Levin explains the 14th amendment

I guess the courts will decide. But Levin got the 14th amendment explanation wrong. Illegal aliens are subject to US federal state and local jurisdiction as any visit to jail will prove.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2010, 11:36:47 PM »
But Levin got the 14th amendment explanation wrong.

I doubt it.

Illegal aliens are subject to US federal state and local jurisdiction as any visit to jail will prove.

I am sure Levin is well aware that anyone inside the US is subject to "US jurisdiction" in that
if they blow up a bomb at the Super Bowl they will be arrested and prosecuted....I am no
lawyer and certainly no constitutional scholar like Levin, but I assume there are different
legal meanings to the word "jurisdiction" and that is what he is referring to.
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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2010, 11:42:58 PM »
actually that can be quite blurry. I hear quite afew urban myths about what laws don`t apply to immigrants(legal or otherwise)

like only american citizens pay taxes(total BS)

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2010, 11:50:25 PM »
As far as i know the only living breathing humans within US borders not subject to US laws are those covered by diplomatic immunity.

Which i also believe was spelled out in the 14th.

I think Levin was being rhetorical and wasn't speaking as a constitutional scholar.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2010, 11:53:56 PM »
actually that can be quite blurry. I hear quite afew urban myths about what laws don`t apply to immigrants(legal or otherwise)

like only american citizens pay taxes(total BS)

Hey Kimba,

In your experience, would you think the asians you know would be more in favor of small government or big government?

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2010, 01:09:53 AM »
BT obviously we do not agree, but this is another example
of what a great learning tool this place is...I was never aware
until tonight that....

The 14th Amendment was basically ratified at "at the Point of the Bayonet". As the legally reconstituted
Southern states were busy ratifying the anti-slavery Thirteenth Amendment, the Northern dominated Congress
refused to seat Southern representatives and Senators. This allowed the remaining Congress to propose
the Fourteenth Amendment, consistent with Article V's requirement of a 2/3 majority for sending a proposed
amendment to the states. Never mind that Congress also clearly violated that Article's provision that "no State,
without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate."

Though the Northern states ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, it was decisively rejected by the Southern
and border states, failing to secure the 3/4 of the states necessary for ratification under Article V. The Northern States
responded with the Reconstruction Act of 1867, which virtually expelled the Southern states from the Union and placed
them under martial law. To end military rule, the Southern states were required to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment.
As one Northerner politician described the situation: "the people of the South have rejected the constitutional amendment
and therefore we will march upon them and force them to adopt it at the point of the bayonet."


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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2010, 01:29:30 AM »
actually i know only a handful would even think in those context. Seriously politics is not a common topic,notice most of mine is economic. I`ll bet when i do talk government it`s money related.

I can`t explain why.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2010, 01:40:20 AM »
If it centers on economics would they be in favor of more or less taxes? More regulation or less?

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2010, 01:54:23 AM »
actually alot of them would be for less taxes And no regulation but no cutting of services.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2010, 02:00:52 AM »
CU,

Do you see any parallels between the dream act and the 14th amendment except that the party roles are reversed?

Kimba,

So the asians you know would probably fit right in with the tea party folks. except for maybe the immigration issue?



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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2010, 02:53:00 AM »
yep

but that`s no surprise, I`ve stated it before most folks are conservative, but thier not gonna to vote for something that will negatively impact on them.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2010, 02:58:05 AM »
yep

but that`s no surprise, I`ve stated it before most folks are conservative, but thier not gonna to vote for something that will negatively impact on them.

Yep you did. That kind of got me looking at a lot of things in ways i hadn't before.

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Re: as long as european babies get deported I`m ok with it
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2010, 08:03:11 AM »
"I bet she could kick your ass!"

You better warn her that I fight dirty plus I'm usually packing. If not a firearm, always a knife.

Merry Christmas CU4 and the all the rest of you chowderheads.

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