Dream Act

[Religious Dick]

No, it wouldn't be palatable under any circumstances. I can't think of any good reason why citizens should be subsidizing the children of illegal aliens. Can you?

[BT]

No, it wouldn't be palatable under any circumstances. I can't think of any good reason why citizens should be subsidizing the children of illegal aliens. Can you?

They are being subsidized now. So what does the bill do other than give those already here a clearer path to citizenship?

[Religious Dick]

No, it wouldn't be palatable under any circumstances. I can't think of any good reason why citizens should be subsidizing the children of illegal aliens. Can you?

They are being subsidized now. So what does the bill do other than give those already here a clearer path to citizenship?

Exactly, what's our interest in doing that?

[Kramer]

Yeah, right, Pelosi was to blame for slavery. And Reid provided Bull Conners with police dogs and fire hoses.

get yourself up to speed with a little education:

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

[BT]

One we get the pick of the litter. It incentivises positive behavior.

Two  what's the alternative. There is no mass effort to deport.

[Kramer]

One we get the pick of the litter. It incentivises positive behavior.

Two  what's the alternative. There is no mass effort to deport.

If I may interject here, I say let's better educate our people and use them to go to places like Mars and to design & build great things so we don't have to import people from other nations. I'm tired of multiculturalism, diversity, and having to give up my rights and culture for other people's issues. If I want third world let me buy a plane ticket and I can visit it and then come home to my home, my nation, and my culture.

It all starts with complete annihilation of Liberalism and Liberals and then once they are out of the way we start the rebuilding process. Nothing good will ever happen if we have them blocking our progress, dividing us, and diverting our attention away from what is best for our society. Is there any way possible to go back to 1955?

[Religious Dick]

Pick of the litter?

Can you name any Mexican Nobel prize winners? Any Somali software moguls? I'll save you a google search: there aren't any.

Are we short of Americans to provide incentives to?

And if we're going to be too stupid to deport, the least we can do is not subsidize our stupidity.

[BT]

Here is a Hispanic winner who won the Nobel as an immigrant.


Ochoa, Severo (sāvā'rō ōchō'?) [key], 1905?93, American biochemist and educator, b. Spain, M.D. Univ. of Madrid, 1929. After teaching at the universities of Madrid, Heidelberg, and Oxford, he came to the United States in 1940. In 1954 he was appointed chairman of the department of biochemistry at New York Univ. He became an American citizen in 1956. With Arthur Kornberg he received the 1959 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the synthesis of ribonucleic acid (RNA), an organic compound that carries hereditary qualities in all reproduction.

Read more: Severo Ochoa ? Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0836336.html#ixzz19Gb0kJTv

[BT]

And if we're going to be too stupid to deport, the least we can do is not subsidize our stupidity.

So how does that work?

No driving on our roads while illegal or the minors who came with them?

No school for them?

No sugar or blended gasoline for them?

No food for them, no water for them, no electricity for them? No air for them?

Anything the govt subsidizes for its legal citizens at whatever level would be off limits for the illegals and their minors?

Not sure how you would implement it, and more importantly how you would enforce it.

Perhaps you have a plan?

[BT]

Are we short of Americans to provide incentives to?

Nah. Americans are free to drop out of school and join gangs and have tons of illegitimate children and go on welfare.

Minor children of illegal immigrants are free to get straight A's all the way through school, get academic scholarships to college and if discovered as illegal they get to be deported.

Yeah makes sense to reward the legals for screwing up and punish the illegals for their achievements.

[Plane]

I'm not sure how the bill encourages immigration. But the current bill as written is open ended, so if the bill specified that only those eligible must meet the requirements at the time of passage or would meet the requirements within 4 years, which means they are within the borders now, would that make it more palatable?

This is a total institutionalisation of the anchor baby concept.

Women pregnant and hopefull trudge the desert and swim the gulf braving extreme danger already because the birth of their child in the most squalid and dangerous circumstances on US soil cuts a lot of red tape for the child that his mother can't deal with or wait for herself, do we know how many women there are who decide this is worth the pain and danger now? Do we estimate how much this would increase?













institutionalisation  wow I can't beleive spell checker liked this one

[BT]

This is a total institutionalisation of the anchor baby concept.

How so?

The dream act affects non anchor babies.

[Plane]

This is a total institutionalisation of the anchor baby concept.

How so?

The dream act affects non anchor babies.

It would convert every child into an anchor baby.

There is a stepwise progress , first you have a child with a right to be here , then you have an appeal to not break up the family.

[BT]

It would convert every child into an anchor baby.

No it doesn't.

Have you read the act?

[Plane]

Every child in the world under the age of eleven should be brought into the US , remain hidden here for five years or so , then when reveiled along with some proofs that the child has been here(large market for false papers here) this child becomes an anchor baby , plus he is at this point near the age that he can join the workforce.

There just isn't a child in the world that deserves to be left out of this program , nor any family on the planet that should have to do without the company of their own anchor child.