Dream Act

[BT]

BT tell me how the (Bad) Dream Act prevents 10-20 million more illegal invaders from coming?

(i) Exemption From Numerical Limitations- Nothing in this section or in any other law may be construed to apply a numerical limitation on the number of aliens who may be eligible for adjustment of status under this section.

Yeah and?

How does that encourage illegal immigration?

This seems to be a clause that prevents any limit on the number of people smuggled in as children and presented later as applicants.

Fine. Then limit it to a certain time frame. Say those children smuggled in prior to 2004 and meet the current requirements.

What else needs to be changed? No access to government backed student loans?

[sirs]

This seems to be a clause that prevents any limit on the number of people smuggled in as children and presented later as applicants.

Fine. Then limit it to a certain time frame. Say those children smuggled in prior to 2004 and meet the current requirements.

And how is that "determined"?  What legal recourse does an illegal immigrant have that says I was illegal starting x?

[BT]

And how is that "determined"?  What legal recourse does an illegal immigrant have that says I was illegal starting x?

School attendance records.

[Christians4LessGvt]

School attendance records.

The state has no idea that these children even exist for the most part.
Most of them do not have SS Numbers.
So some/many may not even attend schools.

[BT]

School attendance records.

The state has no idea that these children even exist for the most part.
Most of them do not have SS Numbers.
So some/many may not even attend schools.

If they haven't attended school then they wouldn't qualify for the dream act.

Besides it is against the law not to attend school if you are under 16.

And if they are home schooled they still have to be registered as home schooled.

[bsb]

"So if you own a rental property and someone walks in an unlocked door
and starts living in your rental property it is wise to start paying for their
medical care and their children's education? F-THAT!"

Lets see if you can get this? I doubt you can but we'll try.  The child who is born here, or comes here as a child, and is the offspring of an illegal, and stays here for a protracted period, is just as important as your child or my child. Get it?

bsb

[Kramer]

"So if you own a rental property and someone walks in an unlocked door
and starts living in your rental property it is wise to start paying for their
medical care and their children's education? F-THAT!"

Lets see if you can get this? I doubt you can but we'll try.  The child who is born here, or comes here as a child, and is the offspring of an illegal, and stays here for a protracted period, is just as important as your child or my child. Get it?

bsb

says who?

[kimba1]

ginko strike again!!

A child born in america and lived here for a long period of time but has parent who are illegal ,should not be treated the same as the parents for deportation by one simple fact. the child is not here voluntarily.

the issue of importance has only one answer N/A  .

[Plane]

ginko strike again!!

A child born in america and lived here for a long period of time but has parent who are illegal ,should not be treated the same as the parents for deportation by one simple fact. the child is not here voluntarily.

the issue of importance has only one answer N/A  .

You would deport half the family?

[kimba1]

actually I`m not sure the kids sent off today are called deported, but they still retain thier american citizenship. What i`m geeting at is thier citizenship should not be in jepordy because of the status of thier parents.Being born here is not a voluntary act on thier part and should be a factor.

[Christians4LessGvt]

If they haven't attended school then they wouldn't qualify for the dream act.

Yes they would...wouldn't they if they passed a GED?

Besides it is against the law not to attend school if you are under 16.

BT it's against the law for them to be here.

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Lets see if you can get this? I doubt you can but we'll try.  
The child who is born here, or comes here as a child, and is the offspring of an illegal,
and stays here for a protracted period, is just as important as your child or my child. Get it?

Any human being is important, any child in the world is important
but that has ZERO to do with whether the child is an American citizen
which they are not. Get it?

[BT]

Yes they would...wouldn't they if they passed a GED?

Yep But then they would have to come up with another way to prove they were here 5 years prior to their application.

BT it's against the law for them to be here.

Yep but is that on the minor or their parents?

[Plane]

So homeschooling the prospective citizen is out , all of this class of potential citizen will be given a government product education.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Yep But then they would have to come up with another way to prove
they were here 5 years prior to their application.

Come on BT....you think if someone has a GED and "claims" they've been here
5 years they are going to make a major scene over it? They going to
start giving lie detector tests?...LOL...Maybe an in-depth investigation?  

BT that is not the way this pro-mass immigration agenda works.
They've got a country they want changed....the sooner the better.
They will be waved on thru. It's a sham to cover for mass amnesty.
And in a few years it will be time for another sham amnesty after millions
more come in to hasten our path to 3rd World Status.