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Our next President!
« on: January 05, 2011, 07:29:58 PM »


Gov. Christie fires 7 N.J. county education chiefs

Tuesday, January 04, 2011

By The Associated Press

TRENTON: Seven education chiefs for New Jersey counties have been dismissed.

Gov. Chris Christie decided not to retain them when their contracts expired Monday.

The dismissals were first reported by The Record of Woodland Park.

Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak said the seven county superintendents affected
were holdovers from the previous administration who would be replaced by Christie appointees.

The positions pay $120,000 a year. County superintendents are assigned to see that state
Education Department policies are carried out at the local level.

Superintendents in Burlington, Cape May, Hunterdon, Monmouth, Ocean and Somerset
counties were dismissed, along with the Middlesex superintendent who also acting
superintendent for Bergen County.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/gov_christie_fires_several_cou.html
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Re: Our next President!.....education tangent
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 07:41:18 PM »
and people wonder why CA is so screwed
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I think this falls under the category of really?  Are you kidding me?  But what has happened in the last week is that some of UC's highest-paid employees - their executives - are now threatening to sue the UC system if the system does not boost their retirement pensions.

That is right, 36 employees making at least $245,000 per year have written a letter calling on UC to fulfill a promise to increase their pensions - this in the midst of the UC's efforts to overhaul a system to make up for a $20-billion deficit caused by a 20-year hiatus in contributions to the fund.

Four of those individuals are administrators at UC Davis.  According to the Sacramento Bee this morning,
"Steven Currall, dean of the graduate management school (who made $294,000 in 2009);
Claire Pomeroy, dean of the medical school and CEO of the UC Davis health system ($529,000 in 2009);
Ann Madden Rice, CEO of UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento ($574,000);
and William McGowan, the health system's chief financial officer ($406,000 in 2009)."

"A health system spokesman says Pomeroy, Rice and McGowan have no comment, but stand behind the letter," the Bee reports.

Needless to say, in times when everyone is being asked to sacrifice and people are either being laid off, furloughed, or are otherwise taking paycuts, when pension funds are on the verge of collapse, this threat by these executives is not going over well.

"It must be hard to see the real world from the penthouse suite atop the University of California's ivory tower," wrote San Jose Mercury News Columnist Patty Fisher late last week, "I assume that's why 36 of the UC's highest-paid executives are threatening to sue unless the regents sweeten their already-lucrative pensions."

The UC promise was made back in 1999, when we lived in a very different world.  In the letter, the 36 employees suggested that they had had a chance to take more lucrative jobs, but remained in their current positions because of the promises made to improve their already-lucrative pensions.

This promise was made during a time when housing prices were booming, when the UC Pension fund was booming to the point that no one had to pay into it.  For twenty years the fund basically grew by itself with no contributions from employees, the university or the state.

However, reality has hit this fund and for the first time in two decades, the University and its employees will begin paying into it.  And the task force had additionally recommended reducing benefits and raising the retirement age - you know, what everyone else in the state is going to be forced to do, from janitors at schools to teachers to municipal employees to state workers to prison guards - everyone apparently except executives at UC, at least in their world.

"In a letter to the regents, the executives demanded that the university let them accrue pensions based on their entire paycheck instead of capping the eligible salary at $245,000, which the IRS used to require. In 1999, UC promised to lift the cap if the IRS agreed. In 2007 the IRS did lift the cap, but the university never made the change," Patty Fisher writes.

As a result, President Mark Yudof has essentially asked the regents to cancel the 1999 agreement rather than pay an additional $5.5 million a year to pad the pensions.  How lucrative would this change be?  According to the San Francisco Chronicle who first broke this story, "a person earning $400,000 at retirement would get an annual pension of $300,000 compared with $183,750 in the current system."

She writes, "Of course the executives are upset. I was, too, when my company froze my pension. Yes, UC made a promise in 1999, but the world has changed. Millions of Americans have seen promises broken. Their pensions, health care and job security have evaporated. So has the promise of an affordable college education."

The Sacramento Bee this morning has joined the criticism of these executives.

"We're in a time in California when everyone has to share the pain, and leaders have to set the right example," the Bee writes.  "It is dumbfounding that some top officials at the University of California are doing the exact opposite."

"What's appalling is that people ? who already earn far more than the vast majority of the Californians who pay their salaries ? want even more in these tough times. These execs richly deserve the withering criticism they're already getting from Gov.-elect Jerry Brown and legislators," the Bee continues.

The Bee concludes, "Good people don't threaten lawsuits against a cash-strapped state to enrich themselves."

We have criticized UC executives a number of times on these pages for taking huge salaries and having increased salaries at times when the average worker is being asked to take pay cuts.  There is always a defense that they accepted less, to work at UC.

But this is just appalling.  If these executives really can make more money elsewhere, then perhaps they should leave and make sure the door hits them on the way out.  We do not need these individuals that badly.  They have hardly done such a great job to begin with.

In a time when the world is changing, these people are living by rules set in 1999.  That world is gone and perhaps it will never come back.

These individuals should be grateful that they still have jobs, that put them in the top one percent of income earners, rather than complaining that they should get more upon retirement.  To do that is nothing short of a gift of public funds, and is corruption at its worst.

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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 09:08:09 PM »
Christie will NOT be our next president.

No chance.

Watch and see.
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 08:08:31 AM »
Christie will NOT be our next president. No chance. Watch and see.
well XO some experts seems to think there is a chance!



Christie May Be GOP's Best Hope

By JOHN ZOGBY

Jan. 6 2011  


NJ Gov Chris Christie

President Barack Obama appeared to be on the ropes after the beating his party took in November and his under
50% approval rating.  But until the Republicans find someone who can defeat him, Obama has to be considered a
favorite to for re-election.

The GOP may have the person who could beat Obama, but New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie still insists he will not be a
candidate for president or vice president next year. Our polling found that Christie was the only one of seven possible Republican candidates leading Obama in a hypothetical 2012 match-up. As a spectator, I'd love to see how a race between these two men of very different personal and governing styles.

Our interactive poll conducted from Dec. 30-Jan. 3 found Christie was the top choice for 27% of Republican voters to be the 2012 nominee, putting him ahead of Mitt Romney (17%), Sarah Palin (16%) and Mike Huckabee (14%).  Christie led among conservatives and Born-Again Christians, and only trailed Romney by a few points among the few moderate Republicans.

In head-to-head polls against Obama, Christie led, 43%-40%. Romney tied Obama at 40%-40%, and all the other Republican names we offered (Palin, Huckabee, John Thune, Mitch Daniels and Tim Pawlenty) trailed by from three to seven points.

Despite those results, Christie still says he won't be running for national office. Responding to news of our poll,
Christie said: "I'm sure the president is resting easy as we speak right now knowing that the only person who's
beating him in a poll will once again declare that I'm not running for president of the United States."

Polling two years out from an election is far from definitive, and most candidates poll much better before the campaigning actually begins and weaknesses are exposed.  That certainly applies to Christie, who was a U.S. Attorney before he beat John Corzine in 2009.

Now, he is well-known among the politically involved as the guy who took on New Jersey public employees. Christie cut the state budget to its smallest total in five years with major cuts to schools, municipalities, mass transit and other areas. He did this after months of conflict with a Democratic-controlled legislature.

Christie quickly became a YouTube star with his town hall dressing down of a complaining public school teacher. The video has been viewed nearly 900,000 times. Christie listens to the woman as he casually takes off his jacket and sips a bottle of water. When she chuckles at his saying he has not "lambasted" teachers, he says he will take another question if she "just wants to puton a show." Christie then riffs for seven minutes on how the teachers union has refused to compromise and is responsible for layoffs of its members. He remains composed, but direct, as he gives his explanation about why he believes New Jersey can't afford current levels of pay and benefits for public employees; and closes with controlled indignation about how the head of a local teachers union asked members to pray for his death.

That video has made Christie the face of the GOP's campaign to reduce the number and compensation of public employees. That is a very popular campaign with independents; and one that Christie's new Democratic gubernatorial neighbor in New York State, Andrew Cuomo, seems to be joining.

Christie is a physically big man with a blunt, confrontational style; the complete opposite of Obama.  Christie has never lived farther from New Jersey than Delaware, where he got his undergrad degree before coming home to get his law degree at Seton Hall. Obama was born in Hawaii, lived for a time as a child in Indonesia, received both his undergrad and law degrees from Ivy League schools and taught law at the equally prestigious University of Chicago.

Debates between the two would bring out all those differences.  If Christie held up under the pressure, he would appeal to working class Democrats (a group where Obama is already weak) and put into play Blue states such as New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

If Christie changed his mind about running for President, he might not be far enough to the right on some issues to win the GOP nomination. He supports New Jersey's strict gun control laws, which alone might be enough to defeat him in some GOP primaries.  Christie says he is "pro-life," but has also said he would not "force that down people's throats." He supports civil unions, but not same sex marriage.

So maybe Christie is making the correct choice in staying out in 2012. On the other hand, he may someday look back and repeat the line of a fictional guy from Jersey and say "I coulda been a contender."

http://blogs.forbes.com/johnzogby/2011/01/06/christie-may-be-gops-best-hope/
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 11:10:33 AM »
I think Xo is still hung up on his girth
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 11:28:58 AM »
I would not vote for THIS fat guy, but I would vote for one that made sense.

I was simply pointing out that no fat guy or bald guy is going to get the nomination. This is not because of anything that I favor, but being as candidates are marketed like products, it IS the way it goes.
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 01:30:04 PM »
SIRS if Gov Christie was not large, XO would just find
some other new way to demonize the guy....it's hardly worthy
of discussion when someone is that intellectually dishonest.
It is simply a way or a distraction for hatred of a person
because they arrive at different conclusions than XO.
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 02:22:12 PM »
SIRS if Gov Christie was not large, XO would just find
some other new way to demonize the guy....it's hardly worthy
of discussion when someone is that intellectually dishonest.
It is simply a way or a distraction for hatred of a person
because they arrive at different conclusions than XO.

Well at least he isn't being demonized as stupid, so that's change for ya.

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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »
Probably only a manner of time, since our prior President had better grades than their champion Gore, yet still got demagogued as the dumb one.  Christie is merely 1 verbal gaffe away from being labeled just as stupid
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2011, 01:56:48 AM »
Christie will NOT be president.

As I recall, someone was predicting Giulani, and someone else was predicting Fred Thompson here in 2008.
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Re: Our next President!
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2011, 02:10:47 AM »
Who would that have been?
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2011, 06:08:09 PM »
Christie will NOT be president.

As I recall, someone was predicting Giulani, and someone else was predicting Fred Thompson here in 2008.

Those are such great reasons that he won't be elected POTUS in 2012. You point is just dumb! What planet are you from?

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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 09:09:20 PM »
A planet called Earth, in which Christie will never be elected president. As I said, voters will not go for some guy who is (a) argumentative and (b) obese. Never have, never will. Not in modern times. Teddy Roosevelt had a high screechy voice like a chicken, Taft was morbidly obese, Madison was a 5'0" pipsqueak, and McKinley had a ridiculous comb-over, but they were elected before presidents were marketed like detergent, and I really doubt that any could be elected today.

Christie will never be president, just like Giulani or Thompson. Believe it or not, but you will see that it does not happen.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2011, 06:34:43 PM »


NJ Governor Chris Christie surges in statewide poll

By Amanda Carey - The Daily Caller | 01/12/2011 |

According to a statewide poll by Fairleigh Dickinson University's PublicMind research center,
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie's job approval is now at 53 percent. According to the
same poll, only 36 percent of New Jerseyans disapprove.

Moreover, those polled were found to have very strong feelings either for or against the governor.
Twenty-eight percent replied saying they have a "very favorable" opinion of the governor and
27 percent said they have a "very unfavorable" opinion.

Along those same lines, 28 percent "strongly" approve of Christie's handling of the governorship,
while 22 percent ?strongly? disapprove.

Christie's approval rating has gone up compared to previous polling. In November, Christie had
a 49 percent approval rating, with 39 percent disapproval. In October, his favorability was at
51 percent, compared to 37 percent disapproval.

According to the director of the poll, Peter Woolley, Christie's handling of fiscal issues,
specifically the fact he hasn't increased taxes, is responsible to the governor?s increased
popularity.

"Voters are focused on finances, theirs and the state's," said Woolley. "Voters didn't get a
tax hike at the state level as they did in past crises. The key is whether, or how much,
they might get I local property tax hikes later this year or next."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/12/nj-governor-chris-christie-surges-in-statewide-poll/

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