How do you fear something currently not possible?

[Christians4LessGvt]

XO i am considering having lense replacement
have you had any eye surgery?

[Amianthus]

thus high meat societies tend to have higher obesity which leads to a multitude of
health problems like diabetes, cancer, cardio-disease.
so again it's not the meat.....it's the amount of meat and animal products we eat

The Inuit had a near exclusive meat diet for millennia with no health problems, until missionaries convinced them that they should cook their meat. Suddenly, they had problems with obesity, high cholesterol, scurvy, cancer, etc.

[Amianthus]

Carrots used to come in a variety of colors. The orange variety has just become the most popular.

[kimba1]

I`m more included to think if you eat too much of onething you`ll lack nutients from other foods.
too much carrots means you`ll not be getting vitamins that carrots don`t provide. in fact I don`t recall any data saying any vegetable or fruit that satisfied all the dietary needs .

don`t forget we eat meat differently nowadays, it`s almost exclusively muscle

[Christians4LessGvt]

The Inuit had a near exclusive meat diet for millennia with no health problems,

"No health problems for millennia"......Ami how do we know that in any real way?

Most Eskimos basically had no choice but to eat meat or die.

I think there is debate about how healthy the Inuit diet was and is.

Besides cooking meat they also started consuming large amounts of
refined sugars, alcohol, ect.....

I would think cooked meat has little to do with their current shorter than
average life-span and multitude of health problems.

http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diet-myths-are-the-inuit-healthy.html

[kimba1]

speaking of carrots.
 I`m thinking of making root soup and I`m wondering can I but some parsnips in it?

I got turnips and carrots with beef broth in it so far.

would turnip greens go well with it?

[Xavier_Onassis]

How can one tell the difference between a white carrot and a parsnip?

No, I have never had eye surgery.

[Amianthus]

I'm still waiting for you to show where eating raw meat (as is currently done in many places) will make you "sick and die" as you claimed. As I pointed out, in Belgium eating raw meat is a daily or near daily experience for most of the population, and they have among the highest lifespans in the world. Care to explain that?

XO: parsnips have a sharp edge to their flavor. carrots are sweeter.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I have eaten parsnips, but I have yet to eat a carrot that was not orange.

I ate some purple potatoes in a vegetarian restaurant in Argentina. They tasted a bit like Yukon Gold potatoes.

[Amianthus]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/13/ST2008051302252.html

[Christians4LessGvt]

I'm still waiting for you to show where eating raw meat will make you "sick and die" as you claimed.

I never said it will make you sick and die as in every single time, but enough
times that entities like the CDC, FDA, doctors, health organizations warn
about the dangers of undercooked meats. The quote I used alluded to the
fact that humans can and do get sick and die by eating raw and undercooked
meat unlike carnivores like lions. The point being lions digestive systems do
not need their raw meat "prepared", frozen, cooked, or other ways to ward off
harmful effects that can crop up when or if humans consume totally unprepared
raw meat.

United States Department of Agriculture
"Is it dangerous to eat raw or undercooked ground beef?"
Yes. Raw and undercooked meat may contain harmful bacteria.
USDA recommends not eating or tasting raw or undercooked ground beef.
To be sure all bacteria are destroyed, cook meat loaf, meatballs, and hamburgers
to a safe minimum internal temperature of 160 ?F. Use a food thermometer to check
that they have reached a safe internal temperature.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/ground_beef_and_food_safety/index.asp

New York Department of Health
Trichinosis is a food-borne disease caused by a microscopic parasite.
Anyone who eats undercooked meat of infected animals can develop trichinosis.
Pork products are implicated more often than other meats.
The symptoms usually start with fever, muscle soreness,
pain and swelling around the eyes. Thirst, profuse sweating, chills,
weakness and tiredness may develop. Chest pain may be experienced
since the parasite may become imbedded in the diaphragm.
Failure to treat could be fatal.
http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/trichinosis/fact_sheet.htm

Mississippi State University
eating raw oysters can cause serious illness or even death.
Vibrio vulnificus a bacterium that occurs naturally in marine waters and is commonly
found in Gulf of Mexico oysters. While not a threat to most healthy people,
Vibrio vulnificus can cause sudden chills, fever, nausea, vomiting, blood poisoning,
and death within two days in people with certain medical conditions.
Forty percent of Vibrio vulnificus infections from raw oyster consumption are fatal
http://msucares.com/health/food_safety/foodfaq25.html

[kimba1]

gotta be fair to meat

the majority of food poisoning is from eating unwashed vegetables.
anyone remember spinach?

[Christians4LessGvt]

As I pointed out, in Belgium eating raw meat is a daily or near daily experience for most of the population
and they have among the highest lifespans in the world. Care to explain that?

Is it really "raw" like the meat a lion rips from a zebra
or is it "prepared" so a human system can accept it?

[Christians4LessGvt]

gotta be fair to meat the majority of food poisoning is from eating unwashed vegetables.
anyone remember spinach?

So lets be fair then!
Yes people got sick from unwashed veggies....

But can you imagine the illness if meats were "unwashed/uncooked/un-prepped"
at restuarants all across the United States this weekend?

I am no scientist, but I would bet if you did a comparison
and served a 1000 meals of totally unwashed/uncooked/un-prepped
raw veggies vs 1000 meals of totally unwashed/uncooked/un-prepped raw meat
the illness from the meats would be much higher.

[Christians4LessGvt]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/13/ST2008051302252.html

So AMI just so I am clear on this....by posting this article are you arguing that the leading US Health
and Medical organizations are wrong by stating that Americans who eat a lot of red meat are
raising their risk for a whole range of health problems? Is that huge bundle of data just a myth?