Collective Bargaining

[sirs]

You really need to stop this knee jerk making criticism of a group, ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE, as somehow criticism of all.  It's bad enough when you falsely complain about folks damning all Muslims.  Your perpetuation of this strawman tactic though is quite transparent, at this point

Best practice what you preach and get back to debating the real issues here

[kimba1]

sirs didn`t halfmoon bay have this problem and the police cry victimhood over this?

infact 2 more town this past month is tanking in california.

[sirs]

To be perfectly honest, Kimba, I don't recall the story.  When I get a chance, I'll try loking up some of the info.  Thanks for brining it to my attention.  But to reference your latter comment, likely far more than just 2 towns are tanking.  Los Angeles is in severe economic shape, and you have a new LA School Super Intendent, IIRC, who is now advocating that all the students should/must be provided healthcare.  Nevermind thier abysmal test results and drop out rates....we need to provide them healthcare

[BT]

You really need to stop this knee jerk making criticism of a group, ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE, as somehow criticism of all.  It's bad enough when you falsely complain about folks damning all Muslims.  Your perpetuation of this strawman tactic though is quite transparent, at this point

Best practice what you preach and get back to debating the real issues here

Talk about straw-men, why are unions responsible for the mess we are in? Seems to me it's management that caved. So why are you blaming Plane for the federal deficit?


I don't know about you, but when i negotiate a salary or commission rate , you'll never hear me say, no that's too much. Not in my best interest, nor am i that stupid.



 

[sirs]

You really need to stop this knee jerk making criticism of a group, ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE, as somehow criticism of all.  It's bad enough when you falsely complain about folks damning all Muslims.  Your perpetuation of this strawman tactic though is quite transparent, at this point

Best practice what you preach and get back to debating the real issues here

Talk about straw-men, why are unions responsible for the mess we are in?

Because their leadership, and those that support their leadership doing what they've done, (which translates into those responsible, and not merely any and every union member) which pretty much is buying the Democrat party, to do their bidding at the expense of the taxpayers.  Note also that I' haven't placed this mess entirely on just the Unions.  IF you were paying attention, in any way, vs the standard, "this is what sirs must think"...must fit template

Seems to me it's management that caved.

"Management" in this case being GOVERNMENT politicians, with "caved" being bought and paid for with Union dollars, with the VAST majority of those politicians being Democrats

So why are you blaming Plane for the federal deficit?

Because I haven't.  That's your yet again mispresentation.  So I'd appreciate if you stopped that RIGHT NOW.  Unless of course you can provide a quote of Plane's that has him fully supporting his union dollars going towards purchasing legislative quid-pro-quos, at the repercussive expense of the tax payer, at which time I would be "blaming Plane".  I'm ready to concede if I was wrong.  Are you??

[Christians4LessGvt]

The new "civility" the Democrats keep talking about?

[sirs]

Remember all the uproar of the supposed racist Tea Party rallies, where you could count the # of such signs on 1 hand.........and that's pretty much all the rallies combined.  One can also safely assume that these Wisconsin union folk (disclaimer for Bt, since he needs clarity that I'm referencing the ACTUAL demonstrators and not every living breathing union member) are perfectly happy with their Walker = Hitler signs, and crosshairs over his head. 

and don't expect a peep of protest or questioning by our MSM 

[Christians4LessGvt]

SIRS this is what happens when you disagree with the left-wing in America!
"Organizing for America"....Obama's former campaign group has
now sent operatives into the state and is involved in orchestrating the protests.
The Taxocrats dont care if there is no money...they still demand their pork!

[sirs]

Look at what Obama & Co did to AZ.  Now it's Wisconsin in their "crosshairs"

[Christians4LessGvt]

SIRS...whats up with your avatar?

Whoever was hosting your avatar pic must have made a change.

It looks like this:

[BT]

SIRS this is what happens when you disagree with the left-wing in America!
"Organizing for America"....Obama's former campaign group has
now sent operatives into the state and is involved in orchestrating the protests.
The Taxocrats dont care if there is no money...they still demand their pork!

Guess the right isn't smart enough to do the same thing. I mean it isn't a mystery how these guys operate.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Guess the right isn't smart enough to do the same thing. I mean it isn't a mystery how these guys operate.

I dunno BT.....before you go hammering the Right again
I would say over the last year the Right (Tea Party) has kicked
every single ass as far as protests/large gatherings go in the United States!
 

[BT]

Best practice what you preach and get back to debating the real issues here

I don't see why persons who choose to work for the government should forfeit their civil rights.

I don't think it would be against the constitution to disallow them to strike.

Let me know when you are ready to debate the real issue.

[sirs]

SIRS...whats up with your avatar?

Whoever was hosting your avatar pic must have made a change.

It looks like this:

I'll look at it in a moment, and if I can't fix it, I'll fix it when I get home this evening.  Thanks

[sirs]

Best practice what you preach and get back to debating the real issues here

I don't see why persons who choose to work for the government should forfeit their civil rights.

No one is asking them to.  Even though this really isn't the issue either, as I asked Xo, where in the constitution is there a "right" to have a union?

I don't think it would be against the constitution to disallow them to strike.

Again, not really the issue

Let me know when you are ready to debate the real issue.

I'm here, and have been ready since I started the thread.  It'll be nice when you actually get around to it, vs demegoguing & misrepresenting my responses.  So let me know when you're planning to practice what you preach.  What do YOU think the issue is?  And not what you think sirs thinks the issue is, since you keep getting that wrong, time after time