Author Topic: More of the new "civility" from the Left---> Death Threats against Republicans.  (Read 7359 times)

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BT

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And the current timeline doesn't support your ongoing position

It doesn't have to.


sirs

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It does tend to debunk it though
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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I don't see how. No proof was provided during the interview.

Providing proof afterward does nothing to change that. Because my position was that no proof was offered during the interview.

Not that it didn't happen.

So no debunking.


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Providing proof afterward does nothing to change that.
Because my position was that no proof was offered during the interview.

BT what is your point?

How could she have "provided proof" in the interview?

Are victims to remain silent unless they have "proof"?

If something rude/vile is said unless you happen to have a tape recorder going
how could one provide "proof"...unless there were others that heard it....and even
then I suppose you would say how could the witness "prove" it was actually said.

Most court cases are even settled without absolute total "proof",
because how can we ever be certain a witness is telling the truth?
Most crime is not filmed or recorded, so many times there is not
100% proof of anything.

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The preponderance of evidence would include previous experience.

In previous experience both partys have attracted a certain number of idiots.

See Theodore Rosevelts quote "Lunitic Fringe" .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic_fringe

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

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Among the wise and high-minded people who in self-respecting and genuine fashion strive earnestly for peace, there are the foolish fanatics always to be found in such a movement and always discrediting it — the men who form the lunatic fringe in all reform movements.
Ch. VII : The War of American and the Unready
« Last Edit: March 14, 2011, 01:21:40 PM by Plane »

Christians4LessGvt

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but Plane there is also pretty good logic in some assumptions

if a group is unruly, bullying, and uncivil
if a group is furious at an opposing side
if a group is angry and protesting
and the target of that group's anger gets a threat
it's not "a reach" to assume someone that is part of the madder than hell group sent the threat
sure there is possibility it is a scam
just like there is a "possibility" that Lady Diana's driver was planted on a suicide mission
really there is almost a "possibility" on anything
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I think C's point, which is also what is debunking Bt is, yes "both sides have their idiot fringe", however Bt's inference that both sides equally do this, is what's largely debunked.  I'd opine a 90-10 split myself, if not more so.  Before Bt demands it, I have no proof, as the MSM follows its SOP, but we just saw an example of how it was proven to have been the left, while the right still has yet to be proven as having been spitting & yelling racial slurs at Dem congresscritters.  Even the ACORN video has yet to be shown to have been "severely edited"
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Possible and plausable are very diffrent.

I would call it plausable that some few on either side could misbehave just this way.

If you want to show that one side is more wrong or has a greater number of idiots direct evidence is a good idea.

As long as we don't actually know who the agent is everything about the agent is supposition.

BT

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I think C's point, which is also what is debunking Bt is, yes "both sides have their idiot fringe", however Bt's inference that both sides equally do this, is what's largely debunked.  I'd opine a 90-10 split myself, if not more so.  Before Bt demands it, I have no proof, as the MSM follows its SOP, but we just saw an example of how it was proven to have been the left, while the right still has yet to be proven as having been spitting & yelling racial slurs at Dem congresscritters.  Even the ACORN video has yet to be shown to have been "severely edited"

I never claimed that both sides do it equally. So how can you debunk something i did not claim.

And as for the ACORN editing did you read the link I provided?

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I think C's point, which is also what is debunking Bt is, yes "both sides have their idiot fringe", however Bt's inference that both sides equally do this, is what's largely debunked.  I'd opine a 90-10 split myself, if not more so.  Before Bt demands it, I have no proof, as the MSM follows its SOP, but we just saw an example of how it was proven to have been the left, while the right still has yet to be proven as having been spitting & yelling racial slurs at Dem congresscritters.  Even the ACORN video has yet to be shown to have been "severely edited"

I never claimed that both sides do it equally.

If not inferred, that what the hell was the point of this entire deflective tangent??  I don't see where either C or I were claiming with 100% factual certainty, that these threats, that initiated this thread, were coming from the left.  Or that the right doesn't have its fringe, that is capable of lunatic left-like garbage.  So, what was the point, besides taking the spotlight off of the actual point of Xo's justifying the threats, by way of claiming Walker started it??
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My entire point in this entire thread  reduced to  bumper sticker simple is:

Buyer beware.



« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 01:21:23 AM by BT »

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But BT...seriously dont you think that what you and Plane are doing
plants seeds of doubt....almost equating the two sides when in reality
there is most likely an obvious choice as to who sent this vile email?

In my mind you and Plane translate a "possibility" into an equal.
At least thats how many would take it....
Sure the possibility always exists for some conspiracy.....
But to me...your rush to plant seeds that it all could be a "set-up"
almost lets the bad guys off in the public's mind.
Do you see what I am saying?
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BT

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I do understand what you are saying.

Let me give you some examples of buyer beware.

Remember when Katrina hit? Remember the tsunami of criticism from the left about how inept Bush and Fema were in handling the situation. Remember that blogger who called the Bush Admin racist and the whole mantra of "dead nigger gator bait" . And remember when the tides receded how very little of the accusations about Bush were true?

Remember when the Black Caucus confronted the Tea Partiers and claimed that the TP folks hurled racial epithets at them? Remember Breitbart offered a 100k reward to anyone who caught the epithets on tape? To the best of my knowledge no one has collected that reward.

Remember the AG Department official who allegedly was taped at a NAACP meeting saying she didn't want to help white people keep their farms? Remember how it was discovered that the tape was severely edited and that in context that wasn't her meaning at all.

Remember Dan Rather and the Bush AWOL memos?

Remeber Donald Segretti?

Remember Thomas Jefferson?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_tricks


sirs

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My entire point in this entire thread  reduced to  bumper sticker simple is:

Buyer beware.


With all due respect....that's kind of a given.  And still doesn't get you off the hook of jumping in with a defensive posture for Xo, when he was justifying the threats with his Walker started it crud
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he was justifying the threats with his Walker started it crud

yeah sure it all started with Walker.....  ::)
as if the Unions had nothing to do with "starting this crud"!
I'd say Walker is finishing off the crud not starting it!
And finish off he did!
Kudos to Governor Walker for doing the right thing & not being intimidated!
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987