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Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« on: January 08, 2007, 12:17:12 AM »
Future of Iraq: The spoils of war
How the West will make a killing on Iraqi oil riches

By Danny Fortson, Andrew Murray-Watson and Tim Webb
Published: 07 January 2007
Iraq's massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be thrown open for large-scale exploitation by Western oil companies under a controversial law which is expected to come before the Iraqi parliament within days.

The US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.

The huge potential prizes for Western firms will give ammunition to critics who say the Iraq war was fought for oil. They point to statements such as one from Vice-President Dick Cheney, who said in 1999, while he was still chief executive of the oil services company Halliburton, that the world would need an additional 50 million barrels of oil a day by 2010. "So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies," he said.

Oil industry executives and analysts say the law, which would permit Western companies to pocket up to three-quarters of profits in the early years, is the only way to get Iraq's oil industry back on its feet after years of sanctions, war and loss of expertise. But it will operate through "production-sharing agreements" (or PSAs) which are highly unusual in the Middle East, where the oil industry in Saudi Arabia and Iran, the world's two largest producers, is state controlled.

Opponents say Iraq, where oil accounts for 95 per cent of the economy, is being forced to surrender an unacceptable degree of sovereignty.

Proposing the parliamentary motion for war in 2003, Tony Blair denied the "false claim" that "we want to seize" Iraq's oil revenues. He said the money should be put into a trust fund, run by the UN, for the Iraqis, but the idea came to nothing. The same year Colin Powell, then Secretary of State, said: "It cost a great deal of money to prosecute this war. But the oil of the Iraqi people belongs to the Iraqi people; it is their wealth, it will be used for their benefit. So we did not do it for oil."

Supporters say the provision allowing oil companies to take up to 75 per cent of the profits will last until they have recouped initial drilling costs. After that, they would collect about 20 per cent of all profits, according to industry sources in Iraq. But that is twice the industry average for such deals.

Greg Muttitt, a researcher for Platform, a human rights and environmental group which monitors the oil industry, said Iraq was being asked to pay an enormous price over the next 30 years for its present instability. "They would lose out massively," he said, "because they don't have the capacity at the moment to strike a good deal."

Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, who chairs the country's oil committee, is expected to unveil the legislation as early as today. "It is a redrawing of the whole Iraqi oil industry [to] a modern standard," said Khaled Salih, spokesman for the Kurdish Regional Government, a party to the negotiations. The Iraqi government hopes to have the law on the books by March.

Several major oil companies are said to have sent teams into the country in recent months to lobby for deals ahead of the law, though the big names are considered unlikely to invest until the violence in Iraq abates.

James Paul, executive director at the Global Policy Forum, the international government watchdog, said: "It is not an exaggeration to say that the overwhelming majority of the population would be opposed to this. To do it anyway, with minimal discussion within the [Iraqi] parliament is really just pouring more oil on the fire."

Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman and a former chief economist at Shell, said it was crucial that any deal would guarantee funds for rebuilding Iraq. "It is absolutely vital that the revenue from the oil industry goes into Iraqi development and is seen to do so," he said. "Although it does make sense to collaborate with foreign investors, it is very important the terms are seen to be fair."

 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132569.ece

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Re: Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2007, 12:45:51 AM »
Supporters say the provision allowing oil companies to take up to 75 per cent of the profits will last until they have recouped initial drilling costs. After that, they would collect about 20 per cent of all profits, according to industry sources in Iraq. But that is twice the industry average for such deals.



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Why?

Why are they offering such a deal that is twice as sweet as other companys are getting in nearby oil feilds?

Is the danger that high?

If I were a member of the Iriqui parlement I would want an explanation .

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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2007, 01:03:24 AM »
Supporters say the provision allowing oil companies to take up to 75 per cent of the profits will last until they have recouped initial drilling costs. After that, they would collect about 20 per cent of all profits, according to industry sources in Iraq. But that is twice the industry average for such deals.



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Why?

Why are they offering such a deal that is twice as sweet as other companys are getting in nearby oil feilds?

Is the danger that high?

If I were a member of the Iriqui parlement I would want an explanation .

No shit, Sherlock.

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Re: Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2007, 01:07:17 AM »
"Western" oil companys include Russian and French , not just Texican .

Are they bidding this way to get oil companys to put up with a lot of danger?

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Re: Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2007, 01:37:07 AM »
And thus you see the sustained effort to bring Iraq to its knees, despite world and now USA condemnation.

What is real clear to me is this:  the Neocons are obviously a scrambled collection of intellectual extremists, sociopathic and narcissistic,  who formed a kind of think tank that got a contract.  They are a storefront operative who was hired by huge money to do something.

That money was oil, and that something was to buccaneer Iraq's oil fields.

You had a whole fucking DC full of politicians on both sides, and during all this, oil, if mentioned at all, was a footnote.  Reigning politicians don't ever mention the word "imperialist" either.

Even Democrats knew that the word "Neocon" was just the phoney moniker of the new guys with the contract with Big Oil.   Big Oil, the Neocons, Perot--all have the crazy eye.

Leads me to believe also that all this fear, all this presumption to make people afraid, all that fear that was used daily, and all the arrogant fear mongering, came as direction from big oil.  Such is the Big Oil style.

Big Oil.

Big Oil.

And who is it, when the temperatures baffle the climatologists and the glaciers turn to soup, that has the lion's share of the blame?

Big oil.

Fucking big oil.

The enemy of everything decent.

Not the oil itself.

The management.

Impeach Cheney.

Impeach Bush.

Implore Pelosi to divestiture.

This is not without precedent.  JFK was toying with the idea when he was shot in Dallas.

Did you know that that divestiture comes from the French--vestire:  to dress, thus di ves, meaning "to strip of clothing" and "deprive of rank?"

I'd call that sweet Texas justice.

On his word as a gentlemen, and having promised to dispense oil like he dispensed for a stipend natural gas to the Northeastern States, suffering a hard winter with high prices, while Texas Oil slammed their doors and counted their profits, I would then hope that Citgo be given Iraq's reserves.  

I'd call that sweet God's justice.


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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2007, 01:43:36 AM »
I would then hope that Citgo be given Iraq's reserves. 
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Can't they bid like everyone elese?

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2007, 01:46:58 AM »
I would then hope that Citgo be given Iraq's reserves. 
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Can't they bid like everyone elese?

To whom would they bid?

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Re: Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2007, 02:12:20 AM »
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"... despite pressure from the US government and foreign oil companies, the current Iraqi government has not passed a national oil law. While regional governments angle for influence over the foreign oil contracts, most Iraqis favor continued control by a national company and the powerful oil workers union opposes de-nationalization. Iraq's political future is very much in flux, but oil remains the central feature of the political landscape."

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/irqindx.htm


Looks as though it is not settled yet.


But the Iriqui Authoritys ought to soberly consider their choices , and ask for bids from every qualified driller.

It would not pay to let a sloppy job be done , nor should they reject anyone politicly , there is a tremendous need for money in Iraq and I think that they should get the most that they can.

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2007, 02:27:53 AM »
Iraqi Trade Union Statement on the Oil Law


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2006/1214tradeunion.htm


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"Therefore, the oil law, if not radically remedied, will produce calamities that will cause great damage and deprivation and a large increase in the number of Iraqi families under the poverty line.



I don't think this is settled.

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2007, 12:21:41 PM »
Iraqi Trade Union Statement on the Oil Law


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2006/1214tradeunion.htm


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"Therefore, the oil law, if not radically remedied, will produce calamities that will cause great damage and deprivation and a large increase in the number of Iraqi families under the poverty line.



I don't think this is settled.

It will be  when we realize we have lost it.

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2007, 12:31:49 PM »
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It will be  when we realize we have lost it.

Perhaps you should hold off your celebration until it is determined that we will lose.


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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2007, 01:20:55 PM »
Perhaps you should hold off your celebration until it is determined that we will lose.

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"We?"

Who is this "we"?

Does anyone here think for even the teensiest moment that "we" refers to the people of the US if US oil companies get these juicy contracts?

None of us is a US oil company.

Only a few of us even own mutual funds that own stock in any US oil comnpany.

But Big Oil is controlled very close to the vest of its officials. Most shareholders will barely benefit. Most US citizens will contiunue to be screwed by Big Oil.


"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Ahem- The Bushidiot's war was about oil.
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2007, 02:06:03 PM »
You'll have to check with Knute to see who he wants to lose.


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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2007, 02:09:23 PM »
You'll have to check with Knute to see who he wants to lose.



What I want has nothing to do with it. The Iraq war has been lost because it was wrong to begin with and incompetently handled in the second place. The unfortuneately named war on terror may still be "won" by US if some non- morons are in charge here.

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2007, 05:36:23 PM »
The US is purposely keeping Iraq a dangerous place to do business for oil companies.  The French and Russia companies don't have militaries there to protect their operations.  The US does.

That is why Bush is so deadset against ending the war in Iraq.  If he were to do that, he'd be the next Kennedy.  Anybody who crosses Big Oil gets a one way ticket to Grave City. 

If everything is in the crapper in Iraq, none of the other "Western countries" are going to try getting their grubby little fingers dipped in that sweet, sweet Texas Tea.