Newt's lost my support

[Christians4LessGvt]

you're right about that SIRS!
hopefully we can get it over-turned
it may have to be when we retake Senate in 2012

[sirs]

Yep......then we can pull the same crud the Dems pulled to get it repealed with a simple majority

[R.R.]

In 1968 Newt did join the Rockefeller campaign, and he did campaign as a liberal in the early 70's, according to two liberal websites that BSB linked to. I assume that information is correct.

Once elected to congress in the mid 70's, though, Newt did join with conservatives and did have a ACU lifetime rating in the 90's.  Not just join but he actually has been a conservative leader over the past 30 years. And I have no doubt he would govern that way if elected president. He does have significant achievements under his belt, like balancing the budget as Speaker of the House and helping to bring unemployment down to under 4%. Those are very much needed now.

[BSB]

It's hardly just a couple of liberal sites that know what Gingrich is.

A google search. If you don't like this one do another. Better still ask a conservative Republican that served with him in the 90s and ask him how many times Gingrich went behind their backs, taking the conservative fire out of bills, and making deals with the Democrats. 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Newt+Gingrich+liberal+

As for Sirs, you were fooled, nothing new. And, you have HDD, Honesty Deficit Disorder, nothing new.


BSB

[sirs]

lol...and as for B....shown to be wrong, yet again...most notably, this time around, in the complete absence of proving your point of some supposed Conservative chameleon, Newt is.  Don't fret, there are lots of topics...some you might actually be right on.  At some point


Sirs

[R.R.]

It's hardly just a couple of liberal sites that know what Gingrich is.

Not is, but was.

He apparently was a liberal in his early 20's.  I'll give you credit for pointing that out. I did not know that. But I won't hold that against him. Everbody did something stupid when they were young.

The first site you posted was very liberal/Socialist, which was the Nation. And the link within that was TNR, which is another liberal site.

[R.R.]

as for B....shown to be wrong, yet again...most notably, this time around, in the complete absence of proving your point of some supposed Conservative chameleon, Newt is.

I don't think he has proven it either. I read all of BSB's links, and although they may have pointed out that Gingrich may have been a liberal in his early 20's after college graduation, there is nothing in there that shows he was a hidden liberal through his Congressional career or that he was any conservative chameleon, when he was taking votes.  If this were true, he would have ACU ratings in the 50's and 60's, not the 90's, which he did have. Unless BSB has something else, he has not proven his statement. Like you said, maybe next time.

[sirs]

Agreed

[BT]

as for B....shown to be wrong, yet again...most notably, this time around, in the complete absence of proving your point of some supposed Conservative chameleon, Newt is.

I don't think he has proven it either. I read all of BSB's links, and although they may have pointed out that Gingrich may have been a liberal in his early 20's after college graduation, there is nothing in there that shows he was a hidden liberal through his Congressional career or that he was any conservative chameleon, when he was taking votes.  If this were true, he would have ACU ratings in the 50's and 60's, not the 90's, which he did have. Unless BSB has something else, he has not proven his statement. Like you said, maybe next time.

So where do the candidates thus far sit on the spectrum.

We have either definites or probables or possibles in Cain, Newt, Mitt, Pawlenty, Daniels, Bachmann, Palin, and Paul.

Lets rank them left to right.

[Christians4LessGvt]

BT in my opinion....right now..... it's looking like it's gonna be Romney
but it's still early
we could do worse
look at McCain and Dole who we were foolish enough to nominate (shakes head)
there is a part of me that thinks some dont wanna jump in
because they know whats coming & dont wanna be the "Captain of the Titanic" when it sinks.
whoever gets elected next....it aint gonna be pretty!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110518/ap_on_el_ge/us_romney_gop_indifference

[BSB]

I'll just keep putting these up to see if dawn ever breaks over Marblehead. 

"Gingrich is a liberal" WND

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=299873


BSB

[sirs]

Thanks for reinforcing my original point, B.  Very appreciative

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Gingrich is a liberal" WND

Compared to who?....LOL

[BSB]

Tea Party Tribune

"Newt Gingrich the Enviro-Liberal Again"

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/02/01/newt-gingrich-%E2%80%93-the-enviro-liberal-%E2%80%93-again/


BSB

[sirs]

I'm really getting a kick out of B validating my original POV and loss of my support.  I wonder if he's spending any time reading any of these posts, that reference his CHANGE NOW, vs his supposd ongoing position of a liberal in conservative clothing, which to date, he has yet to back up with any facts.  Quite the contrary in fact with the posts that RR has provided, in which he had been a staunch conservative ever since his 20's days.