hmmm

[kimba1]

lets just say property value rarely go down when gays move in your neighborhood.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I can go along with this.

Gay men are a generally positive influence, Gay women are pretty much neutral, depending on the money they use to fix things up.

I do not see how Adam & Steve could be a greater threat to anyone if they had a marriage license. If one were to request to SEE their marriage license, they should tell him to take a flying leap, just as any married hetero couple would do.

[Plane]

I If one were to request to SEE their marriage license, they should tell him to take a flying leap, just as any married hetero couple would do.

So the lisense isn't actually usefull to them?

[Xavier_Onassis]

It is useful to them for the sake of insurance beneficiaries, and hospital visitations rights, and income taxes, and of course it is a sentimental thing, just as it is for hetero couples.

[Plane]

  Are Hospitals so stupid?

  Tax benefits are nil for two income couples.

  The sentiment for marrage between the same sex is entirely new.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yes, hospitals are often so stupid.

Not all gay people are two-income people,and there are advantages in even if they are not.

There is no good reason NOT to permit gays to marry. NONE.

[Plane]

Yes, hospitals are often so stupid.

Not all gay people are two-income people,and there are advantages in even if they are not.

There is no good reason NOT to permit gays to marry. NONE.

How about a small reason?

It will become a fact that we will never be able to make peace with any conservative Muslim nation.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I do not think that this is true. Their polygamy does not present any major problems for us.

And gays can marry in Canada and much of Europe now.

[Plane]

I do not think that this is true. Their polygamy does not present any major problems for us.

And gays can marry in Canada and much of Europe now.

Oh?
How many move here with wives?

[Xavier_Onassis]

That is not a problem.

The US has no reason to send gay couples to the Middle East. They certainly could hide their gaiety more easily than a sheik could hide three excess wives. If gays go to Saudi Arabia, they can go on their own, but they would need Saudi visa approval. It is hard to get a Saudi entrance visa, by the way. Unless you are on a Hajj, they don't let you in unless you have a corporate sponsor and have a job already.

I do not think that the US should allow Saudi prejudices to determine our domestic policy towards fairness and equality for all Americans.

[Plane]

 It isn't even.


What doesn't bother us can indeed bother them, have you ever cared that someone in Packistan might be drawing a disrespectfull cartoon of a historical figure that you respect a lot?

But you are right , I also don't want our choices made for us by our enemys , even when the result is a bunch of dead people I don't consider this a strong argument for my side.