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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2011, 11:10:32 PM »
Yea, because that's sooooo the same.         ::)       As I said, those who know the truth vs those that want to simply try to use this to give Israel a PR black eye, will make up their own minds
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2011, 11:15:08 PM »
Yea, because that's sooooo the same.         ::)       As I said, those who know the truth vs those that want to simply try to use this to give Israel a PR black eye, will make up their own minds

The truth is perceived. Perception is shaped. The optics are not in Israel's favor.
Opening fire on unarmed protestors is not the best way to make friends and influence people.


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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2011, 11:31:59 PM »
The truth is the truth.  Israel didn't ask to be attacked.  Israel defended themselves in 67, and in doing so, took lands, in defense of their country.  That is NOT in dispute.  The West Bank was Jordanian, NOT Palestinian.  The Golan Heights were Syrian, NOT Palestinian 

Those are the facts, and more importantly, minus the anti-Israeli PR brigade, that is the truth.
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2011, 11:41:58 PM »
So you are saying the protestors crossing the border are attacking Israel?
And Israel was justified in gunning down 20 of them?

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2011, 12:19:45 AM »
I'd mow the enemy down if they crossed the border no matter
how the enemy dresses them up. World opinion?....LOL
Now that's funny....as if "world opinion" isn't already on
the side that desires the destruction of Israel. F-'em!
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2011, 12:27:29 AM »
I'd mow the enemy down if they crossed the border no matter
how the enemy dresses them up. World opinion?....LOL
Now that's funny....as if "world opinion" isn't already on
the side that desires the destruction of Israel. F-'em!


Of course.

and Bull Connor was only protecting the Southern Way of life.

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2011, 02:12:16 AM »
So you are saying the protestors crossing the border are attacking Israel?

NO, NOT EVEN REMOTELY WHAT I'M SAYING


And Israel was justified in gunning down 20 of them?

Justified?  YES.  Could they have used lesser means?  Also Yes.  But as I said, might give further demonstrations a greater perspective, when they're considering illegally cross into another country's territory
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2011, 08:06:21 AM »
and Bull Connor was only protecting the Southern Way of life.

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #113 on: June 06, 2011, 10:50:38 AM »
It's amazing to watch these frequent knee jerk efforts to equate Israel defending itself with some of our not so great acts of racism     :o
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #114 on: June 06, 2011, 11:01:50 AM »
Israel is a nation BUILT on racism. A Palestinian whose family lived there for a thousand years is expelled by the Israeli Army, and denied reentry. Palestinian olive groves are cut down, their homes are bulldozed and they are prevented from rebuilding. There are highways that only Israelis are permitted to travel on.

 Anyone from Russia claiming one Jewish grandparent, whether they ever entered a synagogue or not, is invited to enter Israel as a citizen and given special treatment. Ultra Orthodox Jews from Queens are allowed to enter Israel, settle in places where they are hated, such as Hebron, and their income for studying the Torah is subsidized by the Israeli government, as their wives have huge numbers of children.

Zionism is racism. It is really quite simple. What Israel does would be illegal and unconstitiutional in any state in the US.

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #115 on: June 06, 2011, 11:04:11 AM »
As I said, its rather amazing to watch these frequent knee jerk efforts to equate Israel defending itself with some of our not so great acts of racism
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #116 on: June 06, 2011, 11:09:02 AM »
Israel does pretty much what Bull Connor did, except with live ammunition.

Wait and see: there will be a major civil disobedience campaign by Palestinians, and it will confound the Israelis far more than the intifadas.

Zionism is racism, Zionism is a form of apartheid as well.
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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #117 on: June 06, 2011, 11:58:25 AM »
Israel does pretty much what Bull Connor did, except with live ammunition.

LOL.....riiiiiiiight.  Because Bull Conner was having thousands of rockets lobbed in from Georgia, while the state of Tennessee had adopted a state resolution for the destruction of Alabama.  Not to mention Georgia, and the rest of the Southeast claimed that the eastern half of Alabama belongs to the Jaffaians.  Yea, pretty much       ::)

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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #118 on: June 06, 2011, 12:10:53 PM »
So when the protestors crossed the border at the Golan Heights how many rockets did they fire?

Any guns shots fired from the protesting crowd?

Israel over-reacted. Much like China did.





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Re: Debunking myths about Israel
« Reply #119 on: June 06, 2011, 12:21:44 PM »
The question is whether the threat posed by a few demonstrators justified shooting to kill them. Was Israel prepared to do this in a more humane manner? Apparently not.

This was not an armed invasion, it was a publicity stunt, and Israel ended up with egg on its face, again. Bashir did not fare well, either. Those crossing the border were fools to do it.

No one won this round.


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