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San Francisco Mulls Goldfish Ban

By Sajid Farooq

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011

First kittens, then puppies and hamsters and now goldfish?

San Francisco's Animal Control and Welfare Commission is recommending that the City
ban the sale of goldfish, tropical fish and guppies in its borders, according to Matier and Ross.

The recommendation to the San Francisco Board of Supervisors is part of the commission's ongoing
efforts to discourage "impulse buys" of animals.

The commission's ban would cover pet stores and breeders in the City. It comes after more than a year
of study and findings that aquarium fish are often mass bred under inhumane conditions or stripped from the wild.

However, the ban is only a recommendation and not likely to be passed by the full board of supervisors to become law.

As Supervisor Sean Elsbernd told the San Francisco Chronicle "this is another Animal Welfare idea that will end up
in the dustbin of history and go absolutely nowhere."

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/San-Francisco-Mulls-Goldfish-Ban-123923649.html
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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 02:11:57 AM »
well

the store name for those goldfish is feeders,meaning thier  intended to be food for the pets being sold.

so the charge of mass breeding is true.

this would likely kill alot of the aquarium business in town

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 10:41:48 AM »
Minnows are raised or wild caught to be sold as bait.

This is not a new practice.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 11:11:23 AM »
The fact is that SF allows people to present issues to be decided by the public, and of course, you have this silly compulsion to post every issue you think is silly.

Okay, it is silly. Is it cruel to raise one sort of fish to feed to another sort of fish? Is is cruel to catch fish and package them as catfood?

Nature is cruel.  If the big fish eating the small fish deem it cruel, they will become vegetarians and eat muselix or something. Let the fish decide.
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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 11:30:50 PM »
It might have been wise to prevent the sale of live snakeheads , but who knew?

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 12:16:43 AM »
What, exactly is a "live snakehead"?

If you remove the head of any snake, it tends to die immediately, so I assume you are referring to come other creature.

As for this law,I really doubt that they will ban the sale of pet goldfish for any reason.
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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 12:45:46 AM »
http://animal.discovery.com/fish/river-monsters/giant-snakehead/


Maximum Length: Up to nearly 6 feet
Maximum Weight: Up to 66 pounds

Extreme Aggression: As long as a full-grown person and weighing as much as a 5-year-old child, the giant snakehead is not only the largest member of the snakehead gang, but also the most violent. In Southeast Asia, there are stories of this fish attacking people unprovoked, especially during the breeding season. Giant snakehead parents aggressively guard their spawn, which is unusual for a fish. The father corrals and guides the fry while the mother patrols at a distance, ready to voraciously attack anything that looks like a threat — even something as large as a person.

U.S. Invasion: The giant snakehead has been sporadically sighted in U.S. waterways from Maine to Arkansas. Given its extremely aggressive nature and willingness to attack people, this is a huge cause for concern for the United States. The government is spending millions to fight this and other invasive snakehead species, mainly the northern and bullseye snakehead species, which have a much stronger foothold. These fish will eat anything that comes close — fish, frogs, lizards, rats, small ducks, snakes and even other snakeheads — and are causing massive environmental damage wherever they're found. They have no predators in the United States and, alarmingly, a female snakehead can produce over 100,000 young in a year.

A Monstrous Fish: There are around 30 different species of snakehead, ranging from the tropical Africa to the Far East and Russia. All are predators with streamlined bodies, sharp teeth and a reputation for extreme aggression. Snakeheads are also air-breathers. The fish will come to the surface, lift its head up, grab a mouthful of air and then submerge. The oxygen diffuses directly into a dense network of blood vessels encircling its swim bladder, an organ that doubles as a simple lung in snakeheads. This allows the fish to survive in stagnant areas where oxygen levels are low. It can even walk on land, using its soft pectorals to drag itself to new locations. It's said a snakehead can survive out of water for up to 4 days.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 01:35:18 AM »
It sounds like they are bad citizens.

How do they taste?

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 04:48:25 PM »
It sounds like they are bad citizens.

How do they taste?

ask an asian, the asian food industry is what brought them here.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 09:18:21 PM »
That makes little sense. If one wants to know what a fish tastes like, one should ask someone of any ethnicity that has tasted said fish here or anywhere. Even if the "Asian food industry" brought them here, it does not mean that all, or even some, Asians have eaten them.

The fish does not have to be in the US for anyone to taste it, and any fish could be tasted anywhere by anyone.

Your sense of logic is deeply flawed.
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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 10:16:51 PM »
That makes little sense. If one wants to know what a fish tastes like, one should ask someone of any ethnicity that has tasted said fish here or anywhere. Even if the "Asian food industry" brought them here, it does not mean that all, or even some, Asians have eaten them.

The fish does not have to be in the US for anyone to taste it, and any fish could be tasted anywhere by anyone.

Your sense of logic is deeply flawed.

Your sense of humor is equally flawed.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 10:33:50 PM »
Why do you assume that I was trying to be funny?
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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 10:57:24 PM »
Why do you assume that I was trying to be funny?

I wasn't assuming you had a sense of humor at all sense you missed it when I joked about asking an Asian about the fish. Do you really think I was serious that Asians would be the only people that could tell you whether a Snakefish was good to eat or not? Anybody that could think that would have to be pretty darn uptight, don't you agree? Sometimes you strike me a just plain dumb!

I would assume some colored people have tried them too, maybe a cracker or two, and surely an illegal alien caught and ate some.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 11:15:41 PM »
it is a popular fish for Chineese , Vietnameese and Thi dishes,it is still leagal to sell them frozen.

I guess that they are most eaten where they are local food.

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Re: Now the "control freaks" wanna outlaw the sale of goldfish!
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 11:31:50 AM »
Do you really think I was serious that Asians would be the only people that could tell you whether a Snakefish was good to eat or not?

Actually, yes. It is a very dumb statement, but you have in the past shown yourself to be capable of surpassing many lesser primates in stupidity. Plus, you are some sort of wacko racist. 

Anybody that could think that would have to be pretty darn uptight, don't you agree? Sometimes you strike me a just plain dumb!

So you make a really really stupid statement and now I am dumb for believing that you are as utterly ignorant, stupid and racist as you seem to want me to believe you are?
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