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Ice (cold) Tea
« on: September 14, 2011, 12:35:14 AM »
Audience at tea party debate cheers leaving uninsured to die
By Rachel Rose Hartman | The Ticket

If you're uninsured and on the brink of death, that's apparently a laughing matter to some audience members at last night's tea party Republican presidential debate.
 
Texas Rep. Ron Paul, a doctor, was asked a hypothetical question by CNN host Wolf Blitzer about how society should respond if a healthy 30-year-old man who decided against buying health insurance suddenly goes into a coma and requires intensive care for six months. Paul--a fierce limited-government advocate-- said it shouldn't be the government's responsibility. "That's what freedom is all about, taking your own risks," Paul said and was drowned out by audience applause as he added, "this whole idea that you have to prepare to take care of everybody ?"
 
"Are you saying that society should just let him die?" Blitzer pressed Paul. And that's when the audience got involved.
 
Several loud cheers of "yeah!" followed by laughter could be heard in the Expo Hall at the Florida State Fairgrounds in response to Blitzer's question.

Paul disagreed with the audience on that front. "No," he responded, noting he practiced medicine before Medicaid when churches took care of medical costs--a comment that drew wide audience applause. "We never turned anybody away from the hospital."
 
Paul voiced support for legalizing alternative health care and argued that the reason medical costs have skyrocketed is that individuals have stopped taking personal responsibility for their health care.
 
Though Paul spoke to the larger issues of health care and government-backed health insurance--both pivotal in the 2012 election--the audience's reaction has overshadowed the substance of the exchange between the candidates. And the day after the event, Texas Gov. Rick Perry offered his own criticism of the audience response.
 
"I was a bit taken aback by that myself," Perry told NBC News and the Miami Herald of the audience reaction after appearing at a breakfast fundraiser in Tampa Tuesday morning.
 
"We're the party of life. We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives."
 
The campaigns for Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann did not immediately respond to The Ticket's request for comment.
 
Conservative Andrew Sullivan writing for The Daily Beast's The Dish Tuesday noted that the United States obligates society to save someone in an emergency room. "America, moreover, has a law on the books that makes it a crime not to treat and try to save a human being who walks into an emergency room. So we have already made that collective decision and if the GOP wants to revisit it, they can," Sullivan wrote.
 
Sullivan also decried the audience reaction, writing: "Maybe a tragedy like the death of a feckless twentysomething is inevitable if we are to restrain healthcare costs. But it is still a tragedy. It is not something a decent person cheers."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/audience-tea-party-debate-cheers-leaving-uninsured-die-163216817.html
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 12:59:01 AM »
I watched that debate, there weren't several audience members shouting yeah at Paul's response.

One , two at most.

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 06:31:02 AM »
The video clip is embedded in the article.

Sounds like more than one or two laughing if you ask me.
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 09:44:25 AM »
the audience and millions of Americans..myself included....are sick of the Left's
"ohhhhh woe is me" extemist examples to justify the crap they have our country in
"oh gov Perry can you sleep at night".....boooo whooooo
"oh what if some guy is bleeding and has no insurance"....booooo whoooo
many of us know and see their game....the bullshit is clearly exposed
the game is to throw out a few extreme rare examples
so they can keep our public hospitals full of illegals having ninos
on the poor american taxpayer's back
"grandma's gonna starve"....so lets keep spending trillions we dont have.
"we gotta give billions to rich bankers & car companies/unions cuzz they too big to fail"...blah blah
so the laughs & jeers are more "F-YOU" at the Left "We see thru your CRAP"!
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 11:57:04 AM »
Several loud cheers of "yeah!" followed by laughter could be heard in the Expo Hall at the Florida State Fairgrounds in response to Blitzer's question.

No biggy! Obama is the enemy, not the Tea Party, which is a bunch of people that gather TOGETHER HOPING TO REDUCE GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION, some call themselves Tea Party members others just hang around the events. There is no real way of knowing who is who, who is yelling & who is laughing.

The problem is Obama and the Democrat Party NOT THE TEA PARTY.


THE ENORMOUS DAMAGE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN DONE BY THE DEMOCRAT PARTY & REPUBLICAN PARTY NOT THE TEA PARTY.

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 07:33:43 PM »
   Tasking the Government with being your brothers keeper is not being compassionate.

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 10:12:29 AM »
Makes me wonder, those folks cheering and laughing about letting a 30-year old man in a coma die because he didn't have any insurance, how many felt at the time that Terri Schiavo should have been kept 'alive' at all cost?
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 11:04:50 AM »
Terri Schiavo is a eerie case because her life support is food and water. she was conscience

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »
Makes me wonder, those folks cheering and laughing about letting a 30-year old man in a coma die because he didn't have any insurance, how many felt at the time that Terri Schiavo should have been kept 'alive' at all cost?

Don't over think it. You are likely (in your mind) trying to compare apples to oranges. Don't dwell on the trivial or unimportant aspects of the debate. Also, the so-called laughers probably never heard about poor Terry.

The bigger picture is all the Democrats in DC think it's funny that almost 100 million people have lost their retirement funds, jobs, homes, and livelihood because of Obama.

On last thing. Maybe you should or someone should go find these mysterious people and ask them a few questions. You might find out that they are liberals, or don't even exist, or don't consider themselves Tea Party people or, since the Tea Party, allows all people of all races, beliefs,  & politics to come to rally's that these folks just happen to be creeps. It's not like the Democrat Party & Republican Party doesn't have a few creeps in their midst.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 11:43:04 AM by Kramer »

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 03:26:26 PM »
Makes me wonder, those folks cheering and laughing about letting a 30-year old man in a coma die because he didn't have any insurance, how many felt at the time that Terri Schiavo should have been kept 'alive' at all cost?

I wasn't one of those.  I can't even imagine the horror of being kept alive in such a state.  Good thing she had no mental state to endure that horror
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 05:53:43 PM »
How do we know who those 1 or 2 people laughing were? They could be CNN employees or liberal plants.

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 05:56:48 PM »
How do we know who those 1 or 2 people laughing were? They could be CNN employees or liberal plants.

TRUE

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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 08:20:47 PM »
From the article:
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Several loud cheers of "yeah!"


So three people screemed out yeah? What are the chances of three separate people screaming out this identical and ridiculous comment?

Why didn't Rachel Rose Hartman go up to the three of them and find out their fricken background? Where abouts were they in the auditorium, the CNN booth?

This smells like a plant to me.


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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 11:34:44 PM »
   Tasking the Government with being your brothers keeper is not being compassionate.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the lack of compassion exhibited by those who would approve and laugh at the idea of letting a 30 year old man in a coma die simply because he had no insurance.
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Re: Ice (cold) Tea
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 12:18:56 AM »
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