Ice (cold) Tea

[Plane]

So compassion is exhibited by using force on every 30 year old to ensure that their care in coma is paid by insurance?
If I felt very deep compassion for you could I demonstrate it by making all of your choices for you?
A compassionate person might chip in voluntarily to support any sort of cause that excites his compassion.

But calling someone compassionate , who is willing to use force to contribute YOUR money deserves a little bit of laughter.

Show me, please, where I have said anywhere that people should be 'forced' to be compassionate 'by having their money taken from them'. Where?

   No less than the tea party is unjustly atributed bad attitudes , why can't I ascribe to you any imagined cruelty I wish?

   It was not actually in your words that I found the tyranical smothering of enforced care , this is in the nature of Obamacare rather.

     If you are an ardent supporter of monsterous Obamacare or merely an opponent to its more reasonable alternative the effect is the same is it not?

     So just as a person or group unwilling to accept government enforced care as kindness can be accused by you of cruelty , I can apply the reversal of  this exaggeration to you. 

     Why not?  Don't I have evidence of your hatred of freedom just as much as you have evidence of Tea Party cruelty?
 

[Plane]

http://www.lakenewsonline.com/newsnow/x1587959458/E-Board-Tea-Party-a-legitimate-political-third-party


Consensus, Tea party is not a third party.


http://lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/article_9bca8e20-dfd3-11e0-b3c5-001cc4c002e0.html

Resolved , the tea party hates evolution in theroy but loves it in practice.

Silly  stuff flys , if you want it to.

[hnumpah]

So compassion is exhibited by using force on every 30 year old to ensure that their care in coma is paid by insurance?
If I felt very deep compassion for you could I demonstrate it by making all of your choices for you?
A compassionate person might chip in voluntarily to support any sort of cause that excites his compassion.

But calling someone compassionate , who is willing to use force to contribute YOUR money deserves a little bit of laughter.

Show me, please, where I have said anywhere that people should be 'forced' to be compassionate 'by having their money taken from them'. Where?

   No less than the tea party is unjustly atributed bad attitudes , why can't I ascribe to you any imagined cruelty I wish?

   It was not actually in your words that I found the tyranical smothering of enforced care , this is in the nature of Obamacare rather.

     If you are an ardent supporter of monsterous Obamacare or merely an opponent to its more reasonable alternative the effect is the same is it not?

     So just as a person or group unwilling to accept government enforced care as kindness can be accused by you of cruelty , I can apply the reversal of  this exaggeration to you. 

     Why not?  Don't I have evidence of your hatred of freedom just as much as you have evidence of Tea Party cruelty?
 

Go for it.

[Kramer]

So compassion is exhibited by using force on every 30 year old to ensure that their care in coma is paid by insurance?
If I felt very deep compassion for you could I demonstrate it by making all of your choices for you?
A compassionate person might chip in voluntarily to support any sort of cause that excites his compassion.

But calling someone compassionate , who is willing to use force to contribute YOUR money deserves a little bit of laughter.

Show me, please, where I have said anywhere that people should be 'forced' to be compassionate 'by having their money taken from them'. Where?

   No less than the tea party is unjustly atributed bad attitudes , why can't I ascribe to you any imagined cruelty I wish?

   It was not actually in your words that I found the tyranical smothering of enforced care , this is in the nature of Obamacare rather.

     If you are an ardent supporter of monsterous Obamacare or merely an opponent to its more reasonable alternative the effect is the same is it not?

     So just as a person or group unwilling to accept government enforced care as kindness can be accused by you of cruelty , I can apply the reversal of  this exaggeration to you. 

     Why not?  Don't I have evidence of your hatred of freedom just as much as you have evidence of Tea Party cruelty?
 

Go for it.

It's been overwhelmingly proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in anyone's mind, except yours, that your ridiculous outrage over a couple of unidentified Laughers at a Tea Party Debate (with maybe a couple thousand people attending) was merely a weak & immature attempt to smear a large group of people that make up millions all over the nation. And none of these millions of people were even at the event.  Note: I have been to many large meetings & gatherings where a small group are having their own little meeting, not paying attention to the event, and they are usually chatting it up, laughing, having a great time and then they make such a ruckus that the entire room looks over at them and then they finally shut up. Honestly, people even laugh at funerals too.

And it's truly sad that you are unaware that the Democrat Party plants people at their oppositions events in order to frame, smear, confuse and discourage and disillusion swing voters so they get a bad impression of the sponsors of such events.

Apparently you are a tool.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Terri Schiavo is a eerie case because her life support is food and water. she was conscience

No, she was not conscious, she was in a coma. She was brain dead, and she was being kept alive by several machines.

You could describe this as "eerie", i suppose. But there was no chance of her recovering. Nobody was home.

[sirs]

Are you a medical doctor?  Were you on her case?  Do you have a medical background?  It's extremely unlikely she was "conscience".  She did have episodes of consciousness (eyes open), so no, she wasn't in a coma, IIRC, and was in what's referred to as a Persistive Vegetative State, but conscience requires some form of brain activity above the level of simply maintaining a heartrate and keeping the diaphragm moving on its autopilot

[Kramer]

Terri Schiavo is a eerie case because her life support is food and water. she was conscience

No, she was not conscious, she was in a coma. She was brain dead, and she was being kept alive by several machines.

You could describe this as "eerie", i suppose. But there was no chance of her recovering. Nobody was home.

Sounds like the perfect description of someone that would vote for Obama in 2012. Why is it he attracts so many brain-dead people that support him?

[Amianthus]

No, she was not conscious, she was in a coma. She was brain dead, and she was being kept alive by several machines.

She was not being kept alive by "several machines" - the machines had been turned off. The court case was about getting the hospital to stop feeding her through a tube.

[hnumpah]

So compassion is exhibited by using force on every 30 year old to ensure that their care in coma is paid by insurance?
If I felt very deep compassion for you could I demonstrate it by making all of your choices for you?
A compassionate person might chip in voluntarily to support any sort of cause that excites his compassion.

But calling someone compassionate , who is willing to use force to contribute YOUR money deserves a little bit of laughter.

Show me, please, where I have said anywhere that people should be 'forced' to be compassionate 'by having their money taken from them'. Where?

   No less than the tea party is unjustly atributed bad attitudes , why can't I ascribe to you any imagined cruelty I wish?

   It was not actually in your words that I found the tyranical smothering of enforced care , this is in the nature of Obamacare rather.

     If you are an ardent supporter of monsterous Obamacare or merely an opponent to its more reasonable alternative the effect is the same is it not?

     So just as a person or group unwilling to accept government enforced care as kindness can be accused by you of cruelty , I can apply the reversal of  this exaggeration to you. 

     Why not?  Don't I have evidence of your hatred of freedom just as much as you have evidence of Tea Party cruelty?
 

Go for it.

It's been overwhelmingly proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in anyone's mind, except yours, that your ridiculous outrage over a couple of unidentified Laughers at a Tea Party Debate (with maybe a couple thousand people attending) was merely a weak & immature attempt to smear a large group of people that make up millions all over the nation. And none of these millions of people were even at the event.  Note: I have been to many large meetings & gatherings where a small group are having their own little meeting, not paying attention to the event, and they are usually chatting it up, laughing, having a great time and then they make such a ruckus that the entire room looks over at them and then they finally shut up. Honestly, people even laugh at funerals too.

And it's truly sad that you are unaware that the Democrat Party plants people at their oppositions events in order to frame, smear, confuse and discourage and disillusion swing voters so they get a bad impression of the sponsors of such events.

Apparently you are a tool.

Apparently you are an idiot. That's why I generally ignore you.

[sirs]

wow

[Kramer]

So compassion is exhibited by using force on every 30 year old to ensure that their care in coma is paid by insurance?
If I felt very deep compassion for you could I demonstrate it by making all of your choices for you?
A compassionate person might chip in voluntarily to support any sort of cause that excites his compassion.

But calling someone compassionate , who is willing to use force to contribute YOUR money deserves a little bit of laughter.

Show me, please, where I have said anywhere that people should be 'forced' to be compassionate 'by having their money taken from them'. Where?

   No less than the tea party is unjustly atributed bad attitudes , why can't I ascribe to you any imagined cruelty I wish?

   It was not actually in your words that I found the tyranical smothering of enforced care , this is in the nature of Obamacare rather.

     If you are an ardent supporter of monsterous Obamacare or merely an opponent to its more reasonable alternative the effect is the same is it not?

     So just as a person or group unwilling to accept government enforced care as kindness can be accused by you of cruelty , I can apply the reversal of  this exaggeration to you. 

     Why not?  Don't I have evidence of your hatred of freedom just as much as you have evidence of Tea Party cruelty?
 

Go for it.

It's been overwhelmingly proven beyond a shadow of a doubt in anyone's mind, except yours, that your ridiculous outrage over a couple of unidentified Laughers at a Tea Party Debate (with maybe a couple thousand people attending) was merely a weak & immature attempt to smear a large group of people that make up millions all over the nation. And none of these millions of people were even at the event.  Note: I have been to many large meetings & gatherings where a small group are having their own little meeting, not paying attention to the event, and they are usually chatting it up, laughing, having a great time and then they make such a ruckus that the entire room looks over at them and then they finally shut up. Honestly, people even laugh at funerals too.

And it's truly sad that you are unaware that the Democrat Party plants people at their oppositions events in order to frame, smear, confuse and discourage and disillusion swing voters so they get a bad impression of the sponsors of such events.

Apparently you are a tool.

Apparently you are an idiot. That's why I generally ignore you.

I think you generally ignore me because you find it impossible to defend the majority of your positions as is the case in this silly subject. This thread has made you look as silly as your indefensible positions. And I would greatly appreciate it if you ignore me for the rest of your life. Thank you in advance!

[Plane]

  Ok, keep in mind that I don't really think this .


     If you are ridiculing the idea that government should not be involved in everything, such as an individuals choice of how much insurance protection to buy, then you must favor that government be directly involved in the intimate decisions of all individuals , how we spend our wealth , how much risk we accept and making generosity and compassion statutory and manditory rather than volentary.

    If we really want the government to enforce our generosity and compassion , leaving nothing to volenteers leaving none out , will any one need or have any actual compassion?

      This reminds me of the trouble the USSR had producing the new Soviet Man.



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Now was that too much interpolation of scant evidence?

[hnumpah]

Your mistake is interpolating that using government - and therefore taxpayer - money had anything to do with why I posted both artcles.

To make it easier for you to understand, my issue is with the Tea Party, and has been from the beginnings of the Tea Party. I could care less that the members would not want the government to step in and pay the hypothetical guys hypothetical medical bills. My issue is with their crass reaction to the hypothetical situation.

"The tea party has been beleaguered since it began to nationally organize in 2009 with the general perception that it was a bastion of conservative ethnocentric racist lunatic fringers. It also seemed to draw from the far right of the Republican Party that openly shouted racial slurs and hateful slogans about liberals, then-Sen. Barack Obama and their ties with socialism at McCain-Palin rallies in the ramp-up to the 2008 general election." (from the second article I posted)

Even since then, it seems every time I see anything about the Tea Party, it's negative. Their stated goals, for the most part, hold some appeal for me; their behavior doesn't. I guess they do hold enough appeal to some folks to dive right in. Well, so does the Ku Klux Klan, I suppose, or the Aryan Brotherhood. I'm just not one of them.

So you see, it had nothing to do with taking money from your pocket to pay any hypothetical medical bills, or somehow forcing you to show compassion. You missed the point entirely.

You guys have fun in the little world you have created for yourselves here.

[BT]

The point from this side was that the 'crass' outburst from 1 to 3 people ( you provided the video ) at a convention hall full of people does not paint the definitive picture of who the "tea party ' folks are. The truth is there is no tea party,  what there is is the idea that a small accountable government that lives within its means is the best government.

The declared candidate on that stage who most closely espouses the tea party ideals is not Rick Perry or Mitt Romney or Michele Bachmann or Rich Santorum and definitely not Jon Huntsman or Newt Gingrich. It's Herman Cain. Strange isn't it. Maybe no one noticed he was black.

[Plane]

Your mistake is interpolating that using ..........

   I did not make a mistake, I used excessive interpolation on a purpose.

    You spotted it immediately.

   It must be harder to spot it when it is under your own feet.

    Tea party rallies have been so wholesome and friendly that they even pick up after themselves.

     While the teas have been perfectly all inclusive to all citizens , they have been called racist on the evidence that they are mostly white, even when they are demonstrably just as integrated as the nation as a whole.

      When an audience member shouted out "I love you Barack Obama" can this be interpolated to mean that the whole audience or the whole Dem Party is still totally smitten with love for the President? Certainly you can.

      A lot of the Tea party "reputation" is handed to them wholly formed, not really earned.

       There is a political class, well practicedd in converting money to loud words, slick as they are lots of these thrown eggs miss.