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[Christians4LessGvt]

Limited appeal in the south and midwest.

Baloney.
Once the South and Midwest gets to know these guys better
they will have much "appeal" over Barack Hussein Obama.
These guys would carry the South and Midwest over Obozo.

[Plane]

The real Romney trouble is that he is willing to tell me what I want to hear.

Everyone elese too I bet.

2008: "Lifelong" devotion to hunting meant "small varmints"
Romney's efforts to get right with the right landed him in trouble. Running against Ted Kennedy for the Senate in 1994, he declared, "I don't line up with the NRA" on gun control. By 2008, Romney had reversed himself on his [and other issues], which quickly gave rise to charges of hypocrisy and opportunism. A YouTube video began making the rounds that captured him firmly stating his liberalish social views, comically juxtaposing them with his newly adopted arch-conservative stances. From then on, th flip-flopper label was firmly affixed to Mitt's forehead.
Oh, and also the one about this "lifelong" devotion to hunting, which turned out to mean he'd done it twice. "I'm not a big-game hunter," Romney said, then explained that his preferred prey were rodents, rabbits, and such--"small varmints, if you will."

He couldn't fathom why the caricature of him was sticking. When Romney's staff showed him the devastating YouTube video, his first reaction was ,"Boy, look how young I was back then."

Source: Game Change, by Heilemann & Halpern, p.293-295 , Jan 11, 2010

GovWatch: 1994: did not “line up with the NRA”
Top Romney Flip Flops: #3. Gun Control:
Campaigning for the Senate in 1994, Romney said he favored strong gun laws and did not “line up with the NRA.” He signed up for “lifetime membership” of the NRA in August 2006 while pondering a presidential run, praising the group for “doing good things” and “supporting the right to bear arms.”

Source: GovWatch on 2008 campaign: “Top Ten Flip-Flops” , Feb 5, 2008

Support the 2nd Amendment AND the assault weapon ............http://www.issues2000.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htm
http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Romney/Gun-Control.php
http://www.issues2000.org/Governor/Mitt_Romney_Gun_Control.htmLegislations
After throwing his support behind several gun control laws at the early stage of his political career, most notably, the Brady Act, Romney has reevaluated his position is now opposed to any further gun control legislations

"I believe we need to focus on enforcing our current laws rather than creating new laws that burden lawful gun owners. I believe in safe and responsible gun ownership and that anyone who exercises the right to keep and bear arms must do so lawfully and properly. I do not believe in a one-size-fits-all federal approach to gun ownership because people keep and use firearms for different reasons. Law-abiding citizens have a right to protect their homes and their families and as President, I will vigorously defend that right."
January 7, 2008, The Washington Post

[sirs]

So, if I understand the timeline, it was 1994 when Romney wasn't a big NRA fella.  Anything since then that would refute all his pro-2nd amendment positions since?

[BT]

Romney's position on the 2nd is opportunistic. My guess is his position evolved depending on his ambitions and of course SCOTUS rulings. At heart Romney is a boy scout.

[sirs]

Most of his positions are.  Question is, here and now, what has been said since way back in 1994 that would refute all the pro 2nd amendment positions he's made since

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to defend Romney, just trying to get a clearer picture of any criticism aimed at his 2nd amendment position.  Is the notion that if it becomes politically appropriate, he'd support a lesser vision of the 2nd?

[BT]

What is your sense of the man? What do you think his position would be if the court started veering towards an anti-2nd position. Would he fight or acquiesce.

Romney reminds me a lot of Obama as their core beliefs as revealed are gelatinous.

[Xavier_Onassis]

No president is going to do anything about the gun nuts or their guns.   The Court has decided everything there is to decide, and Congress will pass no more amendments. It is a total non-issue with either Romney or Obama.

[Plane]

http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2011/10/03/news/chris-christie-might-not-run/

........But Chris Christie would have many problems if he did run. He could count on no support from Tea Party activists in New Jersey. One activist (and CNAV contributor) wrote over the weekend that Christie was not a genuine conservative, but a “Trojan horse.” Part of the problem: Christie’s support comes from the very “money-bag” men whom the Tea Party loathes and despises. Another part is Christie’s seeming ignorance of key issues that affect human liberty. Those issues include gun control, radical Islam, immigration, and “global warming.”

After confronting Chris Christie prior to his election regarding the Second Amendment, your humble reporter quickly recognized that he didn’t have any idea about firearms or the purpose of the Second Amendment. He didn’t know what an assault weapon is or how it functions. The Governor was and still is an enthusiastic supporter of Bill Clinton’s assault weapons ban. So if you’re in favor of gun control, then Governor Christie is your man.
In the one test that Christie faced on gun control, he commuted, to time served, the seven-year sentence of Brian Aitken. Aitken ran afoul of New Jersey’s gun laws while transporting a pistol, that he had lawfully bought in Colorado, to his new Hoboken apartment. Christie could have granted Aitken a full pardon, but he did not.

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Governor/New_Jersey/Chris_Christie/views/The_Second_Amendment/

Governor Christie supports gun conrtrol laws. He has supported the assault weapons ban, opposes concealed carry laws, and supports the New Jersey one gun per month law.

While running for Assemblyman in 1995 Chris Christie put out a campaign flyer noting his support for the assault weapons ban. He called the support for repealing the ban dangerous, crazy, and radical.

In 2009 while seeking the Governor's office in 2009, US Attorney Christie put out a fact sheet noting that he supported New Jersey's gun laws and opposed concealed carry laws. He mocked the idea that he "stood with the NRA."

After assuming office, Governor Christie supported a recently passed New Jersey that only allowed each person to purchase one handgun per day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/us/politics/imagining-a-christie-campaign-for-president.html?pagewanted=all

On gun control, Mr. Christie is out of step with Second Amendment supporters who view with suspicion any laws that restrict access to firearms.

When Jon S. Corzine, the former Democratic governor of New Jersey, accused him in 2009 of standing with the National Rifle Association, Mr. Christie’s campaign noted his support of the federal assault weapons ban. “Hardly the N.R.A. position,” his literature said.

The most problematic issue may be his stand on illegal immigration. ......

[sirs]

What is your sense of the man? What do you think his position would be if the court started veering towards an anti-2nd position. Would he fight or acquiesce.

If you recall an earlier poll you presented, on how we would rate the candidates on their core beliefs, I do believe I had Romney down at the bottom, so I'm not the one who's going to support a Romney candidacy, as the end all be all to supporting a much needed conservative wave of reform.  No I don't "think" he'd go all anti 2nd amendment, since I don't see the courts going anti 2nd amendment.  Quite the opposite in fact.  So, if his winds move with the courts, I'm good with what's currently sitting in the Judicial seats of the Suprme Court.  and if he can manage to plunk another 1 or 2 right leaning folks in Ginsburg's or Breyer's seats, then I'd say his potential for aquiescence is even further removed

[Xavier_Onassis]

After assuming office, Governor Christie supported a recently passed New Jersey that only allowed each person to purchase one handgun per day.
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How can anyone expect to have a decent handgun collection when cruelly limited to only buying 365 handguns per year!
How unreasonable!

[Plane]

After assuming office, Governor Christie supported a recently passed New Jersey that only allowed each person to purchase one handgun per day.
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How can anyone expect to have a decent handgun collection when cruelly limited to only buying 365 handguns per year!
How unreasonable!

If you found a rare gun you really wanted and there were six there with consecutive serial numbers....

    Well you better find them outside of New Jersey.

Rare gun collectors are no more nuts than stamp collectors , so yes , quite nuts.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If you found a rare gun you really wanted and there were six there with consecutive serial numbers....
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What are the odds of that happening? About the odds of six '57 Chevy Belair convertibles with consecutive serial numbers, perhaps? The odds for this would be right up there with being hit by lightning twice or abducted by aliens.

I really think that anyone so obsessed really needs to get a life. Or perhaps they could have five close buddy gun collectors that would conspire to buy one gun each to be resold on different and legal days.

[Plane]

  What are the odds that a law against buying 356 guns in a year have prevented any crime of any sort?
   Has a law that rifles not have bayonet lugs , flashhiders , and a pistol grip ever prevented a violent act even once?

     Lets make silly and ineffective laws, just to say that we are not idle.

[sirs]

Well summized, Plane

[sirs]

No president is going to do anything about the gun nuts or their guns.   

You mean no President is going to do anything about anti-gun nuts or their idiotic notions of the 2nd amendment