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Michael Tee

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According to a Reuters/Ipsos poll, Herm the Perv's numbers are falling substantially since allegations of sexual harassment from three women have surfaced.  Looks like XO was right all along.  I'm not surprised either.  Stick a fork, etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/06/us-usa-campaign-cain-idUSTRE7A04CW20111106

All that follows is a single cut-and-paste of the entire article.

Cain's favorability drops after accusations: poll

2:44am EST
By Steve Holland
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Allegations that Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain sexually harassed women in the 1990s have begun to damage his bid for the White House, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.
The poll showed the percentage of Republicans who view Cain favorably dropped 9 percentage points, to 57 percent from 66 percent a week ago.
Among all registered voters, Cain's favorability declined 5 percentage points, to 32 percent from 37 percent.
The survey represents the first evidence that sexual harassment claims dating from Cain's time as head of the National Restaurant Association have taken a toll on his presidential campaign.
A majority of respondents, 53 percent, believe sexual harassment allegations against Cain are true despite his denials. Republicans were less likely to believe they are true, with 39 percent thinking they are accurate.
"The most striking thing is that Herman Cain is actually seeing a fairly substantial decline in favorability ratings toward him particularly among Republicans," said Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson.
The 65-year-old Cain, a former pizza company executive with no experience in political office, has been running neck and neck with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney for the lead in polls of Republicans considering who will be the nominee to face Democratic President Barack Obama next year.
At least three women have accused Cain of sexual harassment from his time as the restaurant industry's top lobbyist. Cain has given conflicting accounts of the cases since the news broke a week ago by news website Politico. He insists the claims were baseless and that he was wrongfully accused.
But a woman who received a cash settlement from the restaurant association in response to her harassment claim rejected Cain's denials on Friday. She said through her lawyer that she was the victim of a "series of inappropriate behaviors and unwanted advances" by Cain in 1999.
The allegations have received wide attention. The Reuters/Ipsos poll found more than 80 percent of respondents have heard of them. Republicans are the most aware, at 88 percent, while independents the least aware, at 64 percent.
Four in 10 respondents said this issue had made them less favorable toward Cain. About one in three Republicans, or 35 percent, said the controversy had made them less favorable toward Cain.
Jackson said it may well be that the wave of support that carried the conservative Cain to the top of the Republican field was now cresting.
"I think he is probably cresting now. I think this week, last week, were sort of the high-water mark," he said.
The poll found that Romney, who is more a candidate of the Republican establishment, has a favorability among Republican voters of 63 percent, while rival Rick Perry, the Texas governor, is viewed favorably by 47 percent.
Ipsos conducted the poll of 1,007 adults on Friday and Saturday by interviewing individuals via a U.S. online household panel.
Since it was an online poll, typical margins of error do not apply. Despite that, various recognized methods were used to select as representative a sample as possible and weigh the results.
If it were a traditional random survey, it would have a margin of error of between plus 4.4 percent and plus 5.1 percentage points. That figure varies because some participants dropped out of the video portion of the survey. (Editing by Alistair Bell, Philip Barbara and Greg McCune)




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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 05:10:39 AM »
Let's see if there is a bump from the discussion tonight. Newt is also on the rise.

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 05:23:57 AM »
Newt's another loser, a scumbag whose personal morals are even lower than Cain's.  Romney is probably your best bet, but of course he's anathema to the Tea Party because they're afraid he's not crazy enough.  Although he certainly has made enough 180-degree turns in his pathetic attempts to convince them that "Yeah, I am crazy, just look at Crazy Mitt now."  The TP rightly fears that he may not be sincere in his pandering to them.

My own theory is that 2012 will be another 2008 for the GOP, only less dramatically so:  both being the Year of the Sacrificial Lamb.  It will simply not be possible for any Republican to take away Obama's second term, and that's a pity because he richly deserves to be roundly repudiated by the electorate but it'll never happen.  This is why the Same Old Pathetic Bunch who led the nation to the brink of catastrophe in 2008 are the only ones (besides nutcases like Herm the Perv) willing to stick their necks out in 2012.  What do any of these fuckers really have to lose?

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 05:33:22 AM »
To be honest i doubt there will be a 2012 election. I think we will be under martial law.

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 06:51:50 AM »
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/06/8660471-cain-has-a-last-word-on-harassment-case

  The Media has an enormous advantage over the canadates that they oppose.

   I wish this sort of energy had been expended on Bill Clinton when simular accusations came up from credable witnesses.  With Bill these things turned out to be true, but the restraint of the press allowed him to be president anyway.

    If the press is successfull in this project we will be denied an opurtunity to elect an economic subject matter expert with a degree in mathmatics and we will settle again for an expert politician.

 

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 11:42:51 AM »
Clinton was a great president, despite the Lewinsky thing. He sure as Hell was better than Olebush and (retch) Bobdole.

I am glad he was elected. I voted for him twice and I would vote for him again if I could. So would a majority of the people.

I suspect that subconsciously all this interest in Gingrich is that Gingrich is know to be smart, while Perry has shown himself to be a doltish goober and Cain a turkey who has not got the sense to come in out of the rain. So rah rah Gingrich.  But Gingrich is not just smart he is a smartass and people hate him. His own party hated him enough to throw his butt out of the Speakership and the House.
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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 11:45:47 AM »
What accomplishments has Obama had?

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 12:02:27 PM »
Obama has done quite well, considering. If you have not been reading the papers, I am not reading them to you.
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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 12:04:10 PM »
LMFAO, quite well? With what?

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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 12:26:12 PM »
Watch something other than Faux Snooze.
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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 01:46:15 AM »
Clinton was a great president, despite the Lewinsky thing. He sure as Hell was better than Olebush and (retch) Bobdole.

I am glad he was elected. I voted for him twice and I would vote for him again if I could. So would a majority of the people.

I suspect that subconsciously all this interest in Gingrich is that Gingrich is know to be smart, while Perry has shown himself to be a doltish goober and Cain a turkey who has not got the sense to come in out of the rain. So rah rah Gingrich.  But Gingrich is not just smart he is a smartass and people hate him. His own party hated him enough to throw his butt out of the Speakership and the House.

  Clinton never did win a full majority vote.
And if the infidelity doesn't bother you nor the harrassing behavior nor the reprisals against accusers then you voted well.
   Gingritch is smart but too much like Clinton to get elected as a Republican President.

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 12:48:51 PM »
I didn't say that Clinton got an absolute majority. I said that if he could run again, he would have been reelected by a majority.
 Clinton has sympathies for the people of this country. Gingrich sympathizes with the Oligarchy and believes that only by stroking the rich can they get richer, resulting in more crumbs from their table for everyone else. He is smart, but he is devious and a major egotist.
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Re: Cain's numbers dropping after harassment complaints surface - poll
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 01:11:59 PM »
White Racists



Flash back twenty years to the Clarence Thomas hearings and every attack on him then and since has wound around two common points: He's dumb and he's oversexed. Now, twenty years later, the front-runner for the Republican nomination is being hit again by his leftist haters with those same two charges.

It's possible to believe that the fact that the two accusations leveled against Justice Thomas just happened to play into traditional racist stereotypes was a coincidence, but that the same stereotypes are being used again against the second most prominent black conservative after Thomas on the national stage is more than just coincidence.

Once is a shot in the dark, twice is a pattern, and it's an ugly pattern. Leftists eagerly tear apart women who accuse Democratic politicians of improper behavior and then suddenly become born-again feminists when there's a black Republican to be taken down.

Anita Hill was treated as a hero, not because of anything that happened to her, but because she was useful to the Left's cause. Seven years later, the women who stepped forward to accuse Bill Clinton of wrongdoing were jeered and demeaned for opening their mouths by the same politicians and activists who had presented Hill as a role model for women. Meanwhile, Kathleen Wiley, who accused Clinton of attacking her and was libeled for it by the Left, has expressed her support for Cain.

The unwinding is obvious at the fringes. Janeane Garofalo has accused the Republican Party of being the last bastion of white supremacy in the country. When Cain began to achieve prominence, she tried to deal with the contradiction by claiming that he was there just to cover up all the white supremacy. Now that he?s the front runner, and there are sexual allegations against him, she can resolve the contradiction by attacking Cain on the allegations and then pointing to the remaining white candidates as proof that the Republican Party is racist.

This is something that the Left does over and over again, turning black conservatives into a special target, and when it succeeds in hounding them out, then it has "proof" that the Republican Party is racist: "Where are all the minorities"?

Janeane Garafalo, who has a framed picture of herself with Bill Clinton, is the perfect poster child for leftist hypocrisy. She defended supporters of Hollywood pedophile Roman Polanski and claimed that Weinergate wasn't Weiner's fault but a distraction created by the media and Republicans; but now she suddenly has a "truly important" case to focus on.

The issue isn't Cain's guilt or innocence, which can only be determined by the evidence, not by pundits and commentators the issue is the Left's contemptible double standard on racism and sexism, which it exploits for its own benefit. The Left plays the race card against conservative women and the sexism card against conservative black men, not because it believes that racism and sexism are wrong, but because it?s a party built on the art of dividing and conquering along the lines of group identity.

If Cain, like Mel Reynolds, a former black congressman convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault, happened to be a Democrat, then the media would have been telling a completely different story. Reynolds, who was also convicted of bank fraud, received a special commutation of his sentence from Bill Clinton without even actually applying for it.

This is how Reynolds, a key figure in the rise of Obama, was greeted on his release by one Chicago newspaper. "Welcome back to "the world", Mel Reynolds.

"Following a too-long incarceration for his foolish transgressions, personal and financial, former Second District Congressman Mel Reynolds is back on the street again, thanks to a special dispensation from President Clinton, hours before he left the presidency Saturday night that released Reynolds from prison. Reynolds,  who now seeks to make amends to his family, as well as his former constituents "should be welcomed back into the community."

Those are the rules of the game, and they have nothing to do with right or wrong, black or white. The same people who will ride their high horses all over Cain have framed photos of Bill Clinton hanging on their walls. They speak at women's rights seminars and then turn on conservative women like Palin or Bachmann using the very tools of sexism which they condemn. They denounce racism and then exploit racial stereotypes to bring down black conservatives.

The Democratic Party's history of suppressing black Republicans goes back to the Reconstruction period after the Civil War.

Joseph Rainey, the first black congressman, and a Republican from South Carolina, was forced out of office by Democrats through voter fraud. (John Menard, the first black Republican to win a congressional election was not even seated.) Senator Hiram Revels, the first black senator and a Republican from Mississippi, was nearly kept out of office by Democrats who claimed that even a free black man could not have been considered an American citizen.

Over a century later they are still at it. The words have changed, but the tactics haven't and neither has the goal: to keep minorities as a plantation vote and to create the perception that this plantation vote proves that their opponents are racist. The Democratic Party?s old racism didn?t die, it was reborn in a more cynical and manipulative form. The old stereotypes are there waiting to be called on when the time is right.

The media has turned the accusations against Cain into a three-ring circus, not because it believes that sexual harassment is wrong, but because it believes that being a conservative is wrong. And being a black conservative, a runaway slave, is the gravest wrong of all. The dusty closet of their party is still stocked with the old posters warning that Republicans will loose sex-crazed slaves on the population and promote miscegenation. And when they're done lynching another runaway slave, it will be time to run a piece accusing anyone who opposes Obama of being a racist.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 01:13:47 PM »
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwn!
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 01:58:41 PM »
To be honest i doubt there will be a 2012 election. I think we will be under martial law.
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Barring a major debilitating terrorist attack, I would say that that is barking madness.

Even when some of the country was under martial law in 1863, there was an election.

And Obama has done VERY well with most aspects of foreign policy, other than sucking up to Netanyahu. But all US presidents have always sucked up to the Zionists.
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