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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #165 on: November 15, 2011, 01:52:55 AM »
http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php


Is this a good clue?

The screen I get is "Forbidden " "You are not allowed access to  http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php on this server"

link works for me and i haven't changed anything.

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #166 on: November 15, 2011, 01:57:48 AM »
I will see your pair of named accusers one unnamed high, and raise you seventeen named and three unnamed accusers.

In quality and quantity Clinton is three of Cain in accusation alone.

In addition Clinton has admitted to some of the misdeeds he was accused of so there is no doubt of these .

But you know him to be a trustworthy white guy , so this is a list of liars.

  The most pertanant comment you have made so far was when you said
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" I have no idea.  Bring 'em on.

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  Yes you had no real idea , but Clinton is a liberal White Guy, your kinda guy, you felt safe in the assumption, and if that doesn't count as prejudice I want to see how.

In six thousand words or less.

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/11/clintons-list-of-ignored-accusers.html
The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are:

Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned



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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #167 on: November 15, 2011, 02:03:06 AM »
http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php


Is this a good clue?

The screen I get is "Forbidden " "You are not allowed access to  http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php on this server"

link works for me and i haven't changed anything.


Hmmm logjam seems broken.

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #168 on: November 15, 2011, 03:18:14 AM »
I will see your pair of named accusers one unnamed high, and raise you seventeen named and three unnamed accusers.

In quality and quantity Clinton is three of Cain in accusation alone.
In addition Clinton has admitted to some of the misdeeds he was accused of so there is no doubt of these .
The list of women that stepped forward and publicly complained about the former President are:

Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #169 on: November 15, 2011, 06:00:22 AM »
Don't be impressed with me, Google simply handed me what I asked for.


If this makes no impression I don't think I will travel further down this road.

Clinton has been accused of non sexual improprietys also , but this is getting boring.


Have you ever heard of Sysypus?

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #170 on: November 15, 2011, 09:56:26 AM »
That would be Sisyphus, the guy who was cursed by the gods to roll a rock up a mountain only to have it roll back down again.

Clinton did whatever he did, and will be punished no more for it. Voters will decide what to do with Cain, maybe his alleged nasty behavior will be a factor. There is really nothing more to say about this, so far as I can see.
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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #171 on: November 15, 2011, 11:23:39 AM »
Tis true, that the voters will decide for themselves as to the veracity of these accusations, and if perceived valid, how might that influence their support for Cain or not.  But at least we can dispense with how accusations alone, (Hearing this Miss Allred??) should be what supposedly disqualifies a candidate from even being considered, when Clinton was President for his full 2 terms.

And before Xo jumps on with how its "unlikely Gloria 'heard' anything typed by sirs on a keyboard", it was a rhetorical question
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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #172 on: November 15, 2011, 11:27:46 AM »
What is the point of asking this rhetorical question, since you KNOW the answer?

Clinton finished two terms far more successfully than his predecessor and both of his successors.

Life is so unfair to you, sirs, I don't see how you manage to keep going.

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #173 on: November 15, 2011, 11:32:33 AM »
What is the point of asking this rhetorical question, since you KNOW the answer?

Because its for those who may not have known Miss Allred's comments, when she brought forth Cain's accuser


Clinton finished two terms far more successfully than his predecessor and both of his successors.

Good thing we had a GOP congress to keep in grounded, and sounds like Cain has a far better opportunity then to impress, since he had far less accusations


Life is so unfair to you, sirs, I don't see how you manage to keep going.

Easy, I'm a glass-half-full fella.  You ever going to respond to Plane's question, regarding how you're going to have to pay more taxes than "the rich", under Cain's 999 plan??
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #174 on: November 15, 2011, 11:36:43 AM »
I calculated what my taxes would be and in the unlikely event that Cain got the nomination, and was elected AND got Congress to pass his 999 plan, I would pay more.

I have no obligation to share figures with Plane. you or anyone.
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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #175 on: November 15, 2011, 11:42:45 AM »
So, its just your all-too-often flagrantly wrong say so.  Well, why didn't you just say so?
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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #176 on: November 15, 2011, 11:55:23 AM »
Wow, that is some list.

I gotta say, having looked again in more detail into Juanita Broaddrick's accusations, seen a picture of her at that time and seen credible explanations for the 20-year delay, for the false affidavit and for the failure to produce further sworn testimony, I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I think this is probably a credible accusation of rape.  At least, one that deserved serious prosecutorial attention, which it's now probably too late for.

Similarly the Eileen Wellstone accusations and the surrounding circumstances - - why Bill left Oxford after the accusation and a police investigation without completing his studies.  I was disappointed in not being able to find a timeline showing dates of commencement of studies, alleged offence, accusation, and leaving Oxford, but it's certainly a possibility.

Elizabeth Gracen - - sorry guys, this one appears to have been purely consensual, at least according to Wikipedia.  This babe was some looker!  All I can say is Lucky Bill!  Consensual sex with a babe like this one beats consensual sex with Hillary hands down!!!

I'm not going through the rest of them because what's the point?  When you find one pubic hair in your spaghetti, you don't keep eating to see if there's more.  Broaddrick was probably a rape, ditto for Wellstone and the 800K settlement with Jones indicates some kind of wrongdoing that could surface at a trial.  Bill had backers who'd pay the freight all the way to the end of the line, and a huge amount of rep at stake, so obviously he and his handlers had a deathly fear of further proceedings in court.

So Bill's a slimeball.  I don't feel too bad about that, I hated his fucking guts ever since he dumped Lani Guinier and even more after his war on Serbia.  He's the scum of the earth for reasons that have nothing to do with his treatment of women, which is just the icing on the cake for me.  His war on Serbia cost thousands of lives, which nobody gives a shit about anyway.  It was kind of a shock, nevertheless, to realize that Broaddrick had probably been telling the truth after all.

Now maybe you can answer this for me:  How do the numerous crimes of Bill Clinton have anything at all to do with the mountain of fact supporting Cain's sexual harassment of female employees and his lies in denying them?  Want to jump back into the present for a change?

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #177 on: November 15, 2011, 03:22:29 PM »
Clinton has zilch to do with this.

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #178 on: November 15, 2011, 03:27:13 PM »
Clinton has zilch to do with this.


You are correct. It is about double standards.

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Re: Cain passes lie detector test
« Reply #179 on: November 15, 2011, 04:04:05 PM »
And you are correct
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle