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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: ouch
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2007, 11:45:57 PM »
Even the Iraq Study Group recommended a surge.
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The  heroic Iraq Study Group, presided over the same genius and Big Oil shill James Baker, that put US troops, Bible-thumping evangelists among them, in Saudi Arabia. The same clown that advised leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban.


I have no way of stopping this surge. There will be a surge. But do not be surprised when it flops, and if it does not clearly flop, watch and see Juniorbush and his oilman buddies screw it up once more.

They are there for the oil. There goal is a corrupt and easily bribed Iraqi government, bases all about the country for the next thirty years  while ExxonMobil sucks out the oil. But even this will not make them happy: they also want a similar satrapy in Iraq as well.

 
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2007, 12:10:50 AM »
Even the Iraq Study Group recommended a surge.

Context matters.

4 While this process is under way, and to facilitate it, the United States should significantly increase the number of U.S. military personnel, including combat troops, imbedded in and supporting Iraqi Army units. As these actions proceed, we could begin to move combat forces out of Iraq. The primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq should evolve to one of supporting the Iraqi army, which would take over primary responsibility for combat operations. We should continue to maintain support forces, rapid-reaction forces, special operations forces, intelligence units, search-and-rescue units, and force protection units…

11 Because of the importance of Iraq to our regional security goals and to our ongoing fight against al Qaeda, we considered proposals to make a substantial increase (100,000 to 200,000) in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq. We rejected this course because we do not believe that the needed levels are available for a sustained deployment. Further, adding more American troops could conceivably worsen those aspects of the security problem that are fed by the view that the U.S. presence is intended to be a long-term “occupation.” We could, however, support a shortterm redeployment or surge of American combat forces to stabilize Baghdad, or to speed up the training and equipping mission, if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines that such steps would be effective.

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2007, 12:23:02 AM »
Even the Iraq Study Group recommended a surge.

Context matters.

4 While this process is under way, and to facilitate it, the United States should significantly increase the number of U.S. military personnel, including combat troops, imbedded in and supporting Iraqi Army units. As these actions proceed, we could begin to move combat forces out of Iraq. The primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq should evolve to one of supporting the Iraqi army, which would take over primary responsibility for combat operations. We should continue to maintain support forces, rapid-reaction forces, special operations forces, intelligence units, search-and-rescue units, and force protection units…

11 Because of the importance of Iraq to our regional security goals and to our ongoing fight against al Qaeda, we considered proposals to make a substantial increase (100,000 to 200,000) in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq. We rejected this course because we do not believe that the needed levels are available for a sustained deployment. Further, adding more American troops could conceivably worsen those aspects of the security problem that are fed by the view that the U.S. presence is intended to be a long-term “occupation.” We could, however, support a shortterm redeployment or surge of American combat forces to stabilize Baghdad, or to speed up the training and equipping mission, if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines that such steps would be effective.



Sounds very simular to the Bush plan.

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Re: ouch
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2007, 01:41:00 AM »
Even the Iraq Study Group recommended a surge.

Context matters.

4 While this process is under way, and to facilitate it, the United States should significantly increase the number of U.S. military personnel, including combat troops, imbedded in and supporting Iraqi Army units. As these actions proceed, we could begin to move combat forces out of Iraq. The primary mission of U.S. forces in Iraq should evolve to one of supporting the Iraqi army, which would take over primary responsibility for combat operations. We should continue to maintain support forces, rapid-reaction forces, special operations forces, intelligence units, search-and-rescue units, and force protection units…

11 Because of the importance of Iraq to our regional security goals and to our ongoing fight against al Qaeda, we considered proposals to make a substantial increase (100,000 to 200,000) in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq. We rejected this course because we do not believe that the needed levels are available for a sustained deployment. Further, adding more American troops could conceivably worsen those aspects of the security problem that are fed by the view that the U.S. presence is intended to be a long-term “occupation.” We could, however, support a shortterm redeployment or surge of American combat forces to stabilize Baghdad, or to speed up the training and equipping mission, if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines that such steps would be effective.



Sounds very simular to the Bush plan.

Bush has no plan. It takes a brain to have a plan and he has none. He has a recipe for  disaster is all .