Blended Conservatism

[BT]

Sen. DeMint urges Republicans to listen to Ron Paul
By Alicia M. Cohn - 01/11/12 11:10 AM ET

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) said Wednesday the Republican presidential candidates need to listen to Ron Paul and would benefit from integrating some of his libertarian ideas into their platform.

"One of the things that's hurt the so-called conservative alternative is saying negative things about Ron Paul," DeMint told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. "I'd like to see a Republican Party that embraces a lot of the libertarian ideas."

Paul's views on foreign policy have taken plenty of heat from his rivals for the GOP nomination, who have slammed his views on the topic as outside of the mainstream of Republican thought. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) called his views "dangerous" before dropping out of the race.

DeMint said he does not agree with the Texas congressman on everything but that the rest of the GOP presidential field should capture some of what Paul's been talking about for years because the Republican Party "needs" the libertarian movement.

"You don't have to agree with everything he's saying, but if the other candidates miss some of the wisdom about what he's saying about monetary policy ... that will be to our detriment," DeMint said.

DeMint, who is an influential conservative lawmaker with a key role in the Tea Party movement, said the debate within the Republican Party he's most comfortable with is between conservatives and libertarians.


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[sirs]

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) said Wednesday the Republican presidential candidates need to listen to Ron Paul and would benefit from integrating some of his libertarian ideas into their platform.

Why?  The most important components of "libertarian ideas" already are part of the GOP platform, or at least in the stump speeches, of pretty much every candidate......fiscal responsibility, limited government.  In fact, if Paul were to intregrate some of the the Foreign domestic components of the GOP patform, and what Reagan espoused, as it relates to foreign policy, Paul would look far more plausible as a Presidential nominee

Just my 2 cents



And, on a side note, are we now planning on using our original saloon here, vs the new model?

[Christians4LessGvt]

why?

because we are going to need all the support we can get
to rid ourselves of the clown currently in the oval office.

ron paul speaks the truth on many domestic issues

[Xavier_Onassis]

The most important components of "libertarian ideas" already are part of the GOP platform, or at least in the stump speeches, of pretty much every candidate......fiscal responsibility, limited government.

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That is not even sort of true.

Paul advocates an end to the War on Drugs, is for decriminalization of marijuana, believes that the Patriot Act should be repealed, and opposes aid to Israel and having 900 bases all over the planet. He also should support a woman's right to an abortion.

Jim DeMint is a world class prick.

[sirs]

why?

because we are going to need all the support we can get
to rid ourselves of the clown currently in the oval office.

I don't see how trying to adopt a Libertarian's more radical ideas of just how limiting government should be, is the avenue which brings more "support".  Just the other day, I was listening to 2 fellas, who had both voted for Obama, are currently now completely disgusted with him, and would vote Romney in a heartbeat.  Paul, or even Gingrich would likely have them sitting out the next election, or so the inferrence was made.

ron paul speaks the truth on many domestic issues

Never claimed otherwise.  His speaking on foreign issues however is a far inferior matter

[sirs]

The most important components of "libertarian ideas" already are part of the GOP platform, or at least in the stump speeches, of pretty much every candidate......fiscal responsibility, limited government.

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That is not even sort of true.

Paul advocates an end to the War on Drugs, is for decriminalization of marijuana, believes that the Patriot Act should be repealed, and opposes aid to Israel and having 900 bases all over the planet. He also should support a woman's right to an abortion.

See, it's moments like these where I really have to question your position as some professor of language.  The most important components of the Libertarian platform is already a part of the conservative republican platform, such as fiscal responsibility & limited government.  Not NO Government, but limited, as the framers and our constitution had intended.  The garbage you're talking about, is the stuff not being referenced as part of the GOP platform.  At least not from any candidate I'm aware of.

And standing on a position of supporting the killing an unborn child at any time isn't going to gain him any brownie points either.

So yea, its really very true

Jim DeMint is a world class prick.

Just can't resist getting in some bit of 3rd grade name calling, can you

[Xavier_Onassis]

DeMint is a world class prick.
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And the core of Libertarianism does not deal with taxes, either.

There has not been a semblance of a Republican balanced budget since at least Eisenhower. The GOP platform is irelevant to what these creeps actually do.

It deals with individual rights, not some demented religious nutcase ing you that the State has a right to impose itself on ones' own body. There is no such thing as an unborn child.

Until it is born it is a FETUS, not a child.

[sirs]

DeMint is a world class prick.

Yea, we got that the 1st time you used that 3rd grade slur

And the core of Libertarianism does not deal with taxes, either.

Who said it did?? 

There has not been a semblance of a Republican balanced budget since at least Eisenhower.

Wrong again.  We had one under Gingrich.  It wasn't Clinton's budget that brought the Government under balanced.  It was DOA in the House, much like Reagan's were, led by Gingrich.  It was the House Republicans' budget that balanced the Fed's books

Until it is born it is a FETUS, not a child.

Wrong again.  Court after court, across the country applies the count of 2 individual PERSONS murdered, when a preganant women is murdered.  There is no differentiaton

[Christians4LessGvt]

Until it is born it is a FETUS, not a child.

yeah sure

shame on you!



Demonstration of Partial Birth Abortion / Pro-Life Anti-Abortion Video PSA

[BSB]

A fetus is a fetus, an infant is an infant, and a child is a child. A new born infant is where we start considering that they are a living breathing independent individual. You wackos can pretend till the cows come home but those are the facts. Further, what this society needs is for many of these unwed mothers to have considered abortion more seriously than they apparently did. A child born into such a situation has far greater chance of winding up poorly educated, drug dependent, incarcerated, and disadvantaged in almost every category you can think of.

Who is thinking of the child? Those of us who are committed to a society that allows for access to legal, and as safe as is medically possible, abortions.


BSB

P.S. As for libertarianism? It's a fun fantasy to entertain when you're in high school.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I amused myself by reading Ayn Rand in HS and college.
But then I put away childish things.

[sirs]

A fetus is a fetus, an infant is an infant, and a child is a child. A new born infant is where we start considering that they are a living breathing independent individual. You wackos can pretend till the cows come home but those are the facts.

Except in most courts across the country, in which an unborn CHILD is still considered an individual.  And those are the facts.  Or is math different in the BsB household, where 2 murders actually only equals 1?

Further, what this society needs is for many of these unwed mothers to have considered abortion more seriously than they apparently did.

Perhaps we can get PP to stop trying to prevent mothers from being denied Ultrasounds of their unborn child

A child born into such a situation has far greater chance of winding up poorly educated, drug dependent, incarcerated, and disadvantaged in almost every category you can think of.

Who is thinking of the child? Those of us who are committed to a society that allows for access to legal, and as safe as is medically possible, abortions.

Spin it however you want, but not even in the slightest.  Supporting the death of that child is in no way "thinking of the child".  But at least you're referencing a CHILD, and not some nebulous mass of fetal tissue to try and clean your conscience, like some others.  I'll give you high marks for speaking truth to the matter

[Xavier_Onassis]

There is no child. It is a delusion.

[sirs]

A delusion courts across the country apparently share.  But by all means, keep deluding yourself that its merely some mass of cells that magically *poof* becomes a child.....just add air & light

[Xavier_Onassis]

What is going on in someone else's body cannot be my concern. A person's right to reproduce is absolute and none of your beeswax.

I have no more reason to tell a woman that she cannot have an abortion than I do to tell you that you cannot remove the tonsils, adenoids or rotten tooth that God, in all his wisdom, gave you.

If a person has no control over their own body, they are not a free person.

As I have said, if men got pregnant, abortions would be a sacrament.