Blended Conservatism

[BT]

Perhaps it is because the laws against feticide:
1.) Do not grant full personhood to a fetus
2.) have an exception for abortions.

[sirs]

Regardless of the "perhaps" theory, FACTS still provide the murder of 2 persons, in the case of a murder of a pregnant woman, in courts across the country

[BT]

Was that the verdict with the Peterson Case?

Double homicide?

or were the verdicts different for the mother and the fetus?

[sirs]

IIRC, 2 counts of murder, as in 2 persons were killed

[Xavier_Onassis]

If you cannot tell the difference between a fetus and a baby, you are simply defective.

You should be served some hard-boiled chicks for breakfast or have some scrambled chicks or perhaps a dish of ham and chicks, just so you can understand.

[sirs]

If you cannot tell the difference between a fetus and a baby, you are simply defective.

Sematics is a game for others who have far too much time on their hands...so much time, yet they can't even improve in their knee jerk remedial insult responses.  I'll just leave you with the judicial facts to continue to fluster you with

[Xavier_Onassis]

I can tell that this is a picture of a FETUS.

If you cannot, you are defective.

[sirs]

Xo now moving to 1st grade level

[BT]

IIRC, 2 counts of murder, as in 2 persons were killed

You recall incorrectly.

[sirs]

1 count of 1st degree murder
1 count of 2nd degree murder

Nope, I recalled correctly

[BT]

Why the differentiation between the verdicts? 

[sirs]

    I hope you're not insinuating that every man, woman and child that was a victim to a 2nd degree murder convicted criminal, is less a murdered person.  I sure as hell hope that's not the semantic tract you're trying to take.

A murdered person is a murdered person.  The degrees have to to with intent & forthought, NOT if the victim is a person or less of one

[BT]

So the degree has to do with intent and forethought, so your assertion is than when Scott decided to kill the mother in the first degree it was not his intent to kill the baby at the same time?

[sirs]

I think we should leave the psychoanalyzing as to what Scott's intent was or wasn't to the Psychiatrists, as we would merely be speculating.  The law sees 2nd degree murder, as intentional as well, so again, not sure what semantic game you're playing. 

Bottom FACTUAL line is 2, count them 2 murder convictions, per the example YOU prompted....not to mention wrong about my recollection

[BT]

I don't recall psychiatrists prodding the jurors. And i can see that you can't explain why the need for separate and different verdicts. I suspect it had to do with the status of the victims.