Druggie Whitney Houston I'm sad for you....BUT

[Christians4LessGvt]

[kimba1]

Hmm

Just dawn on me if abortion is illegal would those potential parent find other means to dispose of kids. Remember pro-life does not make unwed pregnancy acceptable.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If abortion is made illegal, the dead fetuses will simply be thrown in less elegant dumpsters.

This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Whitney Houston.

I feel sorry for Whitney Houston.

I am not going to feel sorry for stupid anti-choice propaganda pictures.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Hmm ...Just dawn on me if abortion is illegal would those potential parent find other
means to dispose of kids.

The point isnt to make abortion illegal....
The point is to show what an absolute horror abortion is.

But for the sake of your argument/point there is little doubt that
if abortion was not readily available the numbers would be
astronomical lower.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If it were illegal, the numbers would be unknown, just like the number of purse snatchings, burglaries of drug dealers and, yess, alien abductions.

Abortions will never be made illegal in this country. Just like gay marriages being made illegal.

You and your medieval silly church are on the  wrong side of history.

[kimba1]

I think the horror concept is somewhat new. pretty sure in the 50`s religious parents would prefer thiers daughter to have an illegal abortion then to have such a scandal.


even today pro-life organization do not try to lessen concept of scandal. ex. alot people prefer that a virgin not that palin girl tell kids not to have kids out of wedlock.

[BT]

I think the horror concept is somewhat new. pretty sure in the 50`s religious parents would prefer thiers daughter to have an illegal abortion then to have such a scandal.


even today pro-life organization do not try to lessen concept of scandal. ex. alot people prefer that a virgin not that palin girl tell kids not to have kids out of wedlock.

Abortions were available in the 50's and 60's. They were caqlled D&C's then. And religious parents sent their unwed daughters to stay at a relatives house or the various homes for unwed mothers usually run by religious groups.

And as far as advocating against single mother hood, i would expect a single mother to have a greater impact on the audience than a virgin, who has no first handf knowledge of the trials of raising a child by yourself.

I mean would you rather drug counseling from a former addict  or from someone who had no clue what they were talking about. Same with booze or gambling.

[Christians4LessGvt]

You and your medieval silly church are on the wrong side of history.

yeah sure....your support for this horror will not go unpunished.

[kimba1]

Funny thing the same concept applies to drugs also. Ozzy osborne was called a hypocrite for being anti-drug by his own son.

I agree with you BT experience seem to me adds more credibility by my book

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yeah, sure, oppression of fetuses.

Get real, Supercatholic.

[kimba1]

don`t forget it was`nt too long ago kids born out of wedlock was not treated kindly also. pre-abortion time was not the best for some kids. I`m not saying abortion fixed things,but that factors are involved that created a need for it .


that maybe why abortions lately are down. the acceptabilitry to have kids out of wedlock could be the reason. Single moms are few in the 80s. but today you can swing a dead cat and hit one.

ever noticxe no reseach has been done on how many kids who got pregnant were on the abstinence only program.

[Xavier_Onassis]

ever noticxe no reseach has been done on how many kids who got pregnant were on the abstinence only program.

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Odds are very, very high that anyone who got pregnant on an abstinence only program was not good at abstinence.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Yeah, sure, oppression of fetuses.

Actually much worse than "oppression"
really not even close.
It's the slaughter of people just like Claire.
This horror...much, much worse than slavery....will not be sustainable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0cW6MGLas

[Xavier_Onassis]

What do you mean "sustainable"?

Is there a shortage of human beings on this planet?

Obviously if this woman's fetus had been terminated before her birth, then God would have inserted her soul in the next available born human.

Or perhaps God only inserts a soul at the very moment of birth, in which case that would not have been necessary.

Or do you argue that this is beyond God's ability?

You will never NEVER convince me that a woman has an absolute right to give birth or not at her discretion, and NOT YOURS. Why you keep on with this crap is anybody's guess.

[Christians4LessGvt]

What do you mean "sustainable"?

I am quite sure, and actually 100% confident that
the slaughter of tens of millions of babies is not sustainable
and will be on the darkened ash heap of history just like other
disgraceful outrages that have been overcome.

Is You will never NEVER convince me that a woman has an absolute right to give
birth or not at her discretion, and NOT YOURS. Why you keep on with this crap is
anybody's guess.

Oh I know, just like I could have never convinced slave-holders that blacks were humans.


It is not at my "discretion", it's not about me....it's about the innocent baby.
The reason we will never ever give up fighting for the babies is the value of life.
Stop fighting for them? Not a chance!