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If Romney loses Michigan …
« on: February 26, 2012, 03:01:26 PM »
If Romney loses Michigan …
By Bernie Quigley - 02/24/12 09:58 AM ET

A marketing pattern has occurred in presidential races now, following Reagan then Romney: If you want to be president you should run twice, the first time for practice. It seems to be going well for Romney, who knows how to do things. But all hangs on the Michigan primary, in which Santorum and Romney are in a virtual tie.

If Romney loses Michigan it will indicate that the Republican Party has lost its taste for management and governance and has gone over to ideology, marginal religious factions and regional eccentricities. That means it has come to the end of things and a new party needs to develop. This might not be a bad thing. Jon Huntsman has said as much, but he brings no new thinking to the table. Ron Paul does, and he carries with him substance. The Pauls bring substance and good ideas, but the eccentrics in this race (Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, rednecks like Herman Cain, others in the wings) represent birth pains and a repudiation of America’s globalist path since Wilson.

A Romney victory will bring needed stability. In my opinion we have not had a stable presidency in 20 years and have afflicted the world with political neurosis. Romney is a stable politician, a family man and a personal man. He is not married to ideology as the others are. He is not a maverick. He is not “born again” anything. He has always been the same and can trace stability and strength in his family for generations. His choice for VP will not come from art or sociology. His work history shows that he will choose the individual most suited to the job. The safety and progress of America demands it now. My guess is he will choose Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell.

But if Romney loses Michigan, America will fall in a malaise. And in 2016 we will see a motley batch of contenders giving it their second try; the one that really matters to them. Some of them have been depending on an Obama victory in 2012, which raises questions of character. Rick Perry has already implied that he intends to run in 2016. Certainly Gingrich will run and Michele Bachmann and Santorum and probably Cain. And of course Jeb Bush and sidekick New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, which might be considered the pre-Enlightenment team as their vision of governance precedes that of Elizabeth I. But Mitt Romney will not be running.

The only other post-Enlightenment, post-Jefferson, post-Second World War, post-Elvis candidate with a practical vision of America will be Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul. His vision and that of his father’s is right and sensible. It is a coherent vision that responsibly challenges the orthodoxy and opens to the future as did Martin Luther’s challenge to Roman governance. It could well be suited to America in the future, perhaps the near future. It will develop in time to maturity. Perhaps a hundred years, and it will invariably require a revolution. That is what the eccentricity in this race means: It is prelude to a revolution.


http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/212425-if-romney-loses-michigan-
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 04:16:42 PM »
I hear michigan is an open primary state and some groups associated with democrats and the unions
are doing a "get out the vote for Santorum" because they want the in-fighting to continue and they think
Santorum would be easier to beat in the Fall.
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 04:22:21 PM »
Yeah Rush advocated that his listeners vote for Hillary in the MI primary to slow down Obama.


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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 05:51:46 PM »
Yeah Rush advocated that his listeners vote for Hillary in the MI primary to slow down Obama.

sorry...and your point is?
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 06:00:30 PM »
My point is both sides do it.

There are advantages to open primaries just like there are advantages to closed primaries.

Besides if Romney is all that, he shouldn't have any problems closing the deal in MI. He has that war chest for negative ads and his daddy was Governor there once upon a time. Winning there is almost his birthright.




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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 06:52:01 PM »
My point is both sides do it.

LOL I know that....but what was your point in pointing out both sides do it?
Why was that relevant to my comments about the article you posted?
I did not in any way say it was negative what the Leftists were doing.

You gonna vote for Obama if Romney wins the nomination?
I really think you should.....it would fit.
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 07:05:41 PM »
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You gonna vote for Obama if Romney wins the nomination?
I really think you should.....it would fit.

That's interesting.

Why would i vote for Obama?

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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 07:36:48 PM »
It is a fair reading of the situation except that (1) Romney won't president, Cain is not any type or redneck, except for his abysmal knowledge of world politics, and (3) Rand Paul much more of a crackpot than his father.
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 09:43:49 PM »
That's interesting. Why would i vote for Obama?

but BT I asked you the question first....
and in classic BT you answered with a question.
So again lets try...If Romney is the nominee are you voting for Obama?
You invoke Reagan's creed often, but all you do is slam Mitt.
So whats ya gonna do?
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 09:47:47 PM »
I won't vote for Obama. Your turn.

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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 09:59:47 PM »
I was speaking in sarcastic jest
because you always seem so eager to make sure
everyone knows "we did it too" even when it's not even relevant.
BTW i will work hard for _______________________ (anybody that can beat Obama)
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 10:05:36 PM »
I don't recall having a pattern of saying we did it too, eagerly at that.

But I don't see a fit with me voting for Obama if Romney is nominated either, but you dodged that one.

Which is ironic.


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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 10:43:31 PM »
"I don't recall having a pattern of saying we did it too, eagerly at that"

it seems to me you do sometimes pander to the other side
like pretending Mexican drug Lords are somehow like Islamic Terrorist killing for their religion
i cant remember the exact details but as as I remember
you've helped Leftist by making some obscure points when SIRS is battling them
you at times bend over backwards to play the devils advocate for the enemy*
why help the enemy? i never understood it (unless it was something hugely important)
let the enemy help themselves!

"But I don't see a fit with me voting for Obama if Romney is nominated either"

Again I was being sarcastic (because what I see is your history of pandering)
With that said you seem to have harsher words for Mitt than you do Obama.
In some ways it continues the pattern....hammer the Republican!

"but you dodged that one"

I did?
I fail to see how telling the truth is a "dodge".

speaking of "dodge"...I will vote FOR Mitt, Newt, Santy, Paul, or whoever the nominee is.
will you go on record as saying you will vote FOR Mitt if he is the Republican nominee?

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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2012, 01:13:47 AM »
Looks like "Christians" wants BT to take a loyalty oath.

Figures.
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Re: If Romney loses Michigan …
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2012, 02:08:11 AM »
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you at times bend over backwards to play the devils advocate for the enemy*

Even with an asterisk i don't view XO Brass or Mikey as the enemy.

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will you go on record as saying you will vote FOR Mitt if he is the Republican nominee?

Nope.