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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2012, 03:16:45 PM »
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NEVER SAID A GORILLA COULDN'T BE.

so a gorilla depiction could be racist. gotcha.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2012, 03:22:02 PM »
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Yea, now your turn....demonstrate how this toon was racist.  Here's a hint, a toon simply with a gorilla depiction in it, does NOT = "RACISSSST"
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2012, 03:25:42 PM »
I already did.

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It's racist because the author chose to portray obama (and his signature piece of legislation) as a gorilla.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2012, 03:31:18 PM »
To which I demonstrated how it wasn't given the context in the term/use of Gorilla in the room.  Now, in order to validate your RACISSSST claim, you need to demonstrate some pattern of such depictions, by this cartoonist.  This JJ routine & 1 gorilla, devoid of any a remote effort of trying to superimpose Obama onto it, isn't going to to cut it, I'm afraid. 

"Obviously" there must be numerous other examples, if this cartoonist is truely racist.  By all means, educate us, while validating your claim at the same time

Ball in your court
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2012, 03:45:45 PM »
No i don't. I see no need to examine the authors life for other instances of perceived racism.  As you have conceded it could be perceived as racist. Just as i stated.

Defend away.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2012, 04:02:12 PM »
So, it is, because, it just is.  Got it JJ
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2012, 05:02:12 PM »
It is perceived to be racist because as you admitted a black man and his signature program depicted as the gorilla in the room could be perceived as racist. At the minimum it is in bad taste.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2012, 05:52:15 PM »
It's amazing how you accurately denounce pidgeon holing, then get caught doing precisely that.  It's not "bad taste" when it accurately portrays the 800lb non-racist Gorilla/Elephant in the room.  And until you can demonstrate how this cartoonist is racist, your JJ impression of, it just is, isn't going to cut it

And no, I did NOT concede that THIS gorilla in the cartoon could be racist.  I conceded that gorillas, and mokeys, and chimps, could be construed as racist.  Keep digging
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2012, 08:39:59 PM »
Any time you want to march through compton with that cartoon on a poster, feel free.

Your failure to do so will speak volumes.





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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2012, 09:25:53 PM »
Next time I'm there, sure.  So until you can demonstrate....naaa...already gave you that chance.  I guess we're done here
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2012, 09:31:25 PM »
Yeah we are done until you get back with the Compton report.

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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2012, 11:52:55 AM »
Naaaa, that'll be when you come back with a validation of racist toons, from this particular cartoonist
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2012, 01:29:24 PM »
then we are done
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Re: The Elephant in the Room
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2012, 01:36:18 PM »
We were kinda done by this point.  But thanks for the further clarification
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