Conservatives have it right.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Conservatives believe in creating prosperity to lift people out of poverty.
Liberals believe in dividing prosperity to make all of us equally poor.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Conservative are clueless about how to lift anyone out of poverty.

They have never done it, and don't know how.

Compare the percentages of people living in poverty in the US with those in Western Europe and it is clear what needs to be done to eliminate poverty.

[Plane]

By western Europe do you include Ireland and Greece?
Spain and Italy?

These economys need rescue.

Why not include Eastern Europe? Where the socialism is older and deeper.

[kimba1]

I believe frances has areas that don't live up to it's reputation

[Christians4LessGvt]

Conservative are clueless about how to lift anyone out of poverty.
They have never done it, and don't know how.

whatz you talking bout bro?....Never?.....Ha Ha....now thats funny!
i personally have lifted people out of poverty by giving them jobs
one guy was living in his car....countlesss others "staying with friends"
they accepted jobs and worked their ass off
they actually lifted themselves out of poverty once given the chance
now they own homes.....some have gone on to start their own companies
business lifts people out of poverty like nothing else on the planet
business and free enterprise is the biggest poverty eliminator in human history
nothing else comes close

[Xavier_Onassis]

Yeah, you deserve a frigging Nobel Prize for Humanity.

The fact is that poverty is higher in the US than in most of Western Europe. The reason is that capitalism is not a universal solution.

[Christians4LessGvt]

The fact is that poverty is higher in the US than in most of Western Europe.
The reason is that capitalism is not a universal solution.

Most of Western Europe is market system/free enterprise/capitalism.
It works.
Best poverty eliminator in human history.
And will work anywhere.
It is universal....thats the way human nature and logic work.
Reality is what it is.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Then what we need in this country is Western European capitalism. The kind we have here sucks.

[kimba1]

if capitalism is so great why do americans fear foriegn competitian? I always thought the "buy america only "slogan was a sign america can`t compete. I hear alot about patriotism ,but very little about quality of product.

[Christians4LessGvt]

if capitalism is so great why do americans fear foriegn competitian?

Fear of competition?
Hardly....much less so than most of the entire planet!
We allow more imports and do import more than almost anyone.
So if we have fear, it much less than most.

[kimba1]

I forgot the person name but recently he used people fear of china taking over business to win an election. But what you mention is also frowned upon by the" buy american only" folks also.

but I`m curious is it safe to park an import car in all of america( i can`t name the area specificly,m way too many)? I still hear such act will at least get it keyyed.

[Christians4LessGvt]

The kind we have here sucks.

LOL...compared to what?
Europe is going broke.
Are we perfect?...No.
But we have one of the highest ratings in the HDI.
Currently the Unites States is #4 in the world in the The Human Development Index (HDI).
And that's even with a huge influx of poor uneducated immigrants.
So you can pretend our system "sucks"
but most in the world would give anything to be here.
I guess "sucks" is in the eye of the beholder!

[Christians4LessGvt]

[sirs]

I recall the story as well....where a rather liberal college student talked about the need to redistribute wealth, because there were so many who just didn't have what others had.  So, the logically minded teacher told her, what a great idea, and oh, by the way, those straight A's you are earning?  Well we have some students who are getting D's and F's, and really could use some A's.  So we're going to take some of your A's, and of course the GPA associated with them, and give them to much more needy students.  The Straight-A Student was agast at the thought.  I wonder why??

[Xavier_Onassis]

This is a very stupid analogy, often quoted by right wingers. Grades are not the goal of a class, acquiring knowledge is the goal. Grades are not money.

It would make better sense to reward those with A's by charging them the least amount, and charging those with D's and F's more, if you really wanted to use money to maximize learning.