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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Conservatives have it right.
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2012, 02:37:54 PM »
I explained in detail how it is different.

Grades are not like money at all. Grades indicate how the student has already benefited from studying. Grades don't cost the instructor anything.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2012, 02:48:26 PM »
As we've gone over before, you can rationalize anything....like how racist rhetoric isn't really racist, if its coming from someone with a (D) after their name, or happen to be black.  The point is, I demonstrated how the anolgies are dead on....in detail.  Grades don't equal money, regardless of how many times you try to claim that's what's being said. 

Grades equal reward for performance.  So does money/income

And to deal with your other deflection effort, no one claimed you wanted to redistribute grades, so you can drop that asanine attempt.  You want to redistribute other peoples monetary reward they have recieved in the performance of their job.  ITS THE SAME AS IF A TEACHER WANTED TO REDISTRIBUTE OTHER PEOPLE'S EDUCATIONAL REWARD THEY RECEIVED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR SCHOOLING
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2012, 02:49:16 PM »
  How is renumeration for work diffrent from assigning grades based on school performance?

It's not

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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 03:15:58 PM »
It is only barely comparable if a person is paid on a piecework basis.

But again, the professor is paid the same amount regardless of the grade he assigns.

The employer pays less for a lesser performance and keeps more. It is therefore not comparable.

Students are not working for the professor, it is the other way around: the student pays the school, which pays the professor.

Srudents are not working for a grade: their actual reward is the material that they have learned, not the grade.
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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2012, 03:29:19 PM »
Sorry....your (ir)rationalizations aside, its dead on comparable, so you can stop with issues never being made, like what the professor is payed who's giving the grades, though ironically the better the professor, the higher his monetary reward (INCOME).  If he advances on to adminstration positions, even a higher reward.

Grades equal reward for performance.  So can money/income

Someone who wants to redistribute other peoples monetary reward they have received in the performance of their job is the same as if one WANTED TO REDISTRIBUTE OTHER PEOPLE'S EDUCATIONAL REWARD THEY RECEIVED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR SCHOOLING

Dead on
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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2012, 03:42:29 PM »
You are dead wrong and full of crap.
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 03:43:45 PM »
Sorry if them facts and logic cause more grey hairs.  I feel for yas
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« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 05:35:32 PM »
true but the group of those parents are not always liberal.

so?....and all control freaks aren't liberal
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2012, 05:39:07 PM »
actually that kind of grading system would not be liberal, but parental.

No it wouldnt.

Only a parent(no matter what party) with influence would agree thier child should
get thier fair share.

define "fair share"?
what is fair about giving someone something they dont deserve?
no matter whose rug rat they are?
liberals tend to want to give things to people what they dont deserve
thus SIRS point is straight on
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2012, 07:28:02 PM »
To a parent fairshare means thier kid go to the next grade /graduate

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Re: Conservatives have it right.
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2012, 10:42:52 PM »
To a parent fairshare means thier kid go to the next grade /graduate

Passing students on to the next grade that are undeserving is neither fair or wise.
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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2012, 10:59:38 PM »
Not saying i agree with,just pointing out how it started. I never said parents are socially resposible .but if you think about it very few parents would care about other kids if it involves thier own kids grades.

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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2012, 11:07:28 PM »
Of course all control freaks are not liberal.

The government of North Korea are major control freaks. So were Pinochet's goons. So are the Saudi religious police.
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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2012, 11:15:36 PM »
To a parent fairshare means thier kid go to the next grade /graduate


Exactly so.

And to a liberal a person ought to have all his needs and wants supplied whether he is earning them or not.

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Re: Conservatives have it right.
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2012, 11:18:55 PM »
I explained in detail how it is different.

Grades are not like money at all. Grades indicate how the student has already benefited from studying. Grades don't cost the instructor anything.

  This is more of a simularity than you think it is.

    It doesn't cost the government much to print a lot of money , but if they overindulge the money looses value in the process.
     As you say it isn't costing the Professor directly to give grade easily, but the Professors credibilility is his stock and his grades can suffer from inflation.