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Plane

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Re: Future tense, X: The fourth revolution
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2012, 05:31:05 PM »
If people started firing workers because President Obama was elected, you cannot blame him, any more than you can blame President Lincoln for the Secession of the Southern states.

The current recession is simply NOT President Obama's fault. He has done a lot to keep it from getting worse.  Recovering from a real estate meltdown generally takes a minimum of ten years according to experts. I do not blame him because I am not a moron.

Yes indeed.
So then how is President Bush responsible for things that President Obama isn't?

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Re: Future tense, X: The fourth revolution
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2012, 01:12:37 AM »
Bush mongered a war with no way of paying for it. He returned what could have been a budget surplus in rebates.

He did nothing to put in laws that would have prevented the real estate meltdown.
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Re: Future tense, X: The fourth revolution
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2012, 02:32:34 AM »
Bush mongered a war with no way of paying for it. He returned what could have been a budget surplus in rebates.

He did nothing to put in laws that would have prevented the real estate meltdown.


That was never in the cards.

First thing that happened was the Baby boom started retireing , soon the ratio of people paying into SS was no longer suficient to hold up the whole budget.

Social Security is in no respect diffrent than a Ponzi scheme, it is just a large one with a lot of inertia, during the Clinton years it peaked.

There may be any number of other factors , but this one by itself is so large that all other factors are swamped.

Check this out, get the figures for the Clinton surplusses that span about six years, then for each year subtract the Social Security component, Voilla, "surplus" entirely disapears.

Early in the Bush administration this started happening as the Baby boom started retireing in great numbers.

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Re: Future tense, X: The fourth revolution
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2012, 08:20:46 AM »
Social Security is in no respect diffrent than a Ponzi scheme, it is just a large one with a lot of inertia, during the Clinton years it peaked.

It is in many respects NOT like a Ponzi scheme.

It has lasted over 75 years.

There are no Ponzi schemes that have ever had compulsory participation.

There are no Ponzi schemes which limit the contributions one might make.

There are no Ponzi schemes in which people are prevented from asking for all their money, plus interest in one lump sum.

The current recession is caused far more by people being replaced by robotics and by jobs being exported than by Social Security.
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