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Its a Kawasaki!
« on: August 13, 2012, 06:47:24 AM »
http://myship.com/imo/9294252/OTOWASAN


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Kawasaki Heavy Industries Tokyo

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2005
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302477 t
LOA

333 m
Breadth

60 m
Maximum draft

20 m
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Volts Shipping Navigation Panama

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 06:56:43 AM »
(DVO) On 12/8 there was a collision between a destroyer missile control of the situation with the U.S. Navy and a Japanese tanker in the Gulf of Panama Persian flag. As a result, the collision between the Arleigh Burke class destroyer named USS Porter Flight II (DDG 78)'s 5th Fleet, U.S. Navy tankers were Otowasan of Japan "tear" on one side broadside.  According to sources, the collision occurs at the narrowest location of the Strait of Hormuz, then Otowasan tanker has crashed into the starboard of the destroyer USS Porter and ripped a part in the starboard hull. After the accident, nobody was seriously injured. Porter continued to train to move on Port Jebel Ali (Dubai, UAE) to assess and repair damage.  Otowasan tanker company owned by MOL (Mitsui OSK Lines) Tankship Management Asiacua Japan, was played by the shipyard in Sakaide, the Corporation Kawasaki Shipbuilding Industry since 2005. Otowasan ship tonnage is 302,477 tons (oil) and 160 292 tonnes (oil), 334M length, 60m wide.  U.S. Warships >> ripped body near the Strait of Hormuz

http://www.baomoi.com/Anh-USS-Porter-bi-xe-rach-man-tau-gan-eo-Hormuz/119/9090584.epi

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 12:22:12 PM »
USS Porter Flight II
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This seems like a rather silly name for a warship. It sounds like it was the second ship named for some guy named "Porter Flight", but "Flight" is not a surname I have ever heard of before. Are there not enough naval heroes to just use a new name, instead of naming two boats the same, as in Porter Flight I and Porter Flight II?

The Navy seems to deliberately do things to confuse itself from time to time.

When I see the designation "II" after the name of a boat, I think of a Jimmy Buffett album where Jimmy is perched on the rotting hulk of a boat named "Unsinkable II".

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 01:38:45 PM »
I may have thought of this album cover, but it turns out that the rotting  boat was named GOOD LUCK.

Strange how memory works.
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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 07:49:31 PM »
http://www.public.navy.mil/




USS PORTER (DDG 78)

Belongs to Comdesron 2, attached right now to the 5th fleet. I guess Comdesron is hard to translate.

The mystery here is that both of these ships are recent manufacture, why did their radar fail?

That Japaneese tanker is very large , it is like hitting an island.

Only the injury is on the side , so.... more like an island hitting you.

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 11:30:40 PM »
Maybe their radar was tuned to different frequencies, or someone was asleep at the switch.
They make up stupid words like Comdesron just to make themselves feel smarter, like the Holy Mother Church saying mass in Latin for ten centuries after people stopped speaking it.

Why did they refer to it as "Porter FLIGHT II"?

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 12:02:13 AM »
I was looking for data on that Japaneese ship. The article I posted is twice translated.

I saw that it was strange , but I thought it understandable and funny.

Comdesron is a large division of the Navy, and "Flight" is a small division of the AirForce, so I think that the passage through three languages did this damage.

 http://www.cds2.navy.mil/


I apologise for not being clear.

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 10:29:42 AM »
Interesting that the Navy would use a greyhound as a symbol. Greyhounds are not noted for aquatic performance.

The motto "second to none" seems to be a refutation of the number 2.

Nice to know that Comdesron 2 is following Comdesron 1.

How is the Airforce related to Porter? Or is it?

Destroyers are not gifted with the power of flight.
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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 11:05:57 PM »
Interesting that the Navy would use a greyhound as a symbol. Greyhounds are not noted for aquatic performance.

The motto "second to none" seems to be a refutation of the number 2.

Nice to know that Comdesron 2 is following Comdesron 1.

How is the Airforce related to Porter? Or is it?

Destroyers are not gifted with the power of flight.

The Navy is devided into squadrons which Desron 2 is.
Ships , men and equipment.
Where the navy has aircraft , these can be grouped in flights , as also the airforce.
The ships of Comdesron 2 can all carry a helicopter one each.

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 02:07:21 AM »
Okay, that makes some sense.

Thanks.
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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 07:21:49 PM »
Scuttlebutt has it that the Porter did see the tanker but apparently the various sections that could have avoided the collision thought the other sections had a handle on it.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. And yes, heads are rolling.


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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 09:07:22 PM »
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/navy_aegisbmd_111209w/


Looks as if the Porter was about to go into the yards anyway.

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 09:53:21 AM »
Scuttlebutt has it that the Porter did see the tanker but apparently the various sections that could have avoided the collision thought the other sections had a handle on it.

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Perhaps the difficulty lies in thinking of one ship as consisting of different sections,as opposed to one single ship.

A huge oil tanker traveling at typical oil tanker speeds should not be hard to avoid.
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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 08:05:25 PM »
It was dark.

I don't know the visibility or sea state.

But Radar should have worked even in pea soup fog.

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Re: Its a Kawasaki!
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 10:39:02 AM »
That is hard to argue with. Using radar should be basic to anyone steering any ship. The smaller ship should always have the obligation to get out of the way, because the larger one needs more time to move.
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