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Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« on: September 01, 2012, 04:44:06 AM »
>> Nuclear report on Iran puts Israel in a box
By Jodi Rudoren and David E. Sanger
THE NEW YORK TIMES
August 31, 2012
JERUSALEM — For Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the International Atomic Energy Agency on Thursday offered findings validating his long-standing position that while economic sanctions and diplomatic isolation may have hurt Iran, they have failed to slow Tehran’s nuclear program. If anything, the program is speeding up.

But the agency’s report has also put Israel in a corner, documenting that Iran is close to crossing what Israel has long said is its red line: the capability to produce nuclear weapons in a location invulnerable to Israeli attack. With the report that the country has already installed 2,000 centrifuges inside a virtually impenetrable underground laboratory, and that it has ramped up production of nuclear fuel, officials and experts here say the conclusions may force Israel to strike Iran or concede it is not prepared to act on its own.

Whether that ultimately leads to a change in strategy — or a unilateral attack — is something that even Israel’s inner circle cannot yet agree on, despite what seems to be a consensus that Iran’s program may soon be beyond the reach of Israel’s military capability.<<

http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N33/long5.html

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Re: Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2012, 08:53:17 AM »
Irony can stack.

A huge deep underground facility is not invunerable to attack by atomic bomb.

It need not completely destroy , sealing the exits and vents should be enough.

Does Isreal have atomic wepons?

I suppose they do, the evidence that they do is alike to the evidence that Iran does.

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2012, 10:58:32 AM »
I suppose they do, the evidence that they do is alike to the evidence that Iran does.

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Everyone knows that Israel has nukes, lots of them. This was exposed by some Israeli who was kidnapped and disappeared by Mossad.

Iran has nothing.

A preemptive strike by Israel would be a failure without US collaboration.
Netanyahu lies, as do the Iranians. Neither is to be trusted.
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Re: Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2012, 11:08:09 PM »


A preemptive strike by Israel would be a failure without US collaboration.

Really?

Why is that?

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2012, 12:58:21 AM »
Israel does not have the necessary weapons to penetrate the Earth enough to destroy the Iranian manufacturing devices.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2012, 01:42:15 AM »
Israel does not have the necessary weapons to penetrate the Earth enough to destroy the Iranian manufacturing devices.


For an atomic bomb this is not necessacery.

No one can make the doors and airvents proof against collapse or buryal if an atomic bomb goes off near enough to the surface.

So all of the engineers and tecs live through the blast, they would have to be dug out from under the crater and fracture zone.

If a dig like that takes a week then they would just pop another bomb each week.

It is much easyer and simpler once that first red line is crossed.

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2012, 01:58:27 PM »
Israel does not dare use nuclear weapons. It would dry up funds from American, British and Canadian Jews. Israel is a beggar nation and overseas charity is an essential part of its economy.

I would expect Pakistan to donate a nuke to the Iranians to retaliate with. Nuclear weapons are out of the question.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2012, 04:51:04 PM »
Nuclear weapons are out of the question.

Ah baloney.
Israel will use tactical nuclear weapons against Iranian targets.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2012, 06:33:25 PM »
Tactical, schmactical. Who cares? a nuke is a nuke is a nuke.
You might as well be talking about legitimate or illegitimate rape.

Any nuclear weapon is a nuclear weapon and will be seen as a horrible outrage by Israel against humanity anjd civilization. Even Netanyahu understands this. He is a hateful creep, but he appears to be smarter than you.

Israel will not use nukes in any peremptory strike.
If the US learned that they planned to do this, it would be the moral duty of the US president to send the seals tin to confiscate each and every nuke Israel has, buy force if necessary, and to destroy their facilities so they can never build another.
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Re: Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2012, 09:31:48 PM »
Tactical, schmactical. Who cares? a nuke is a nuke is a nuke.

More non-sense from a liberal denying reality.
If there is no difference why do they exist?
There is a huge difference....that's why.
But go ahead and continue to live in fanatsy land.

Israel will not use nukes in any peremptory strike

They will probably use tactical nukes to penetrate hardened IslamoNazi nuclear sites
and the sooner the better!

it would be the moral duty of the US president to send the seals tin to confiscate each and every nuke Israel has,
buy force if necessary, and to destroy their facilities so they can never build another.

Actually I could see Obama wanting to do that....attack US allies to protect US enemies.

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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2012, 02:00:24 AM »
Feint Accompli.

Forgiveness may be ever so hard to get , but still easyer to get than permission.

I can imagine Isreli leaders deciding that they would rather loose the good graces of the US than loose a city or two.

They might be able to rebuild a city , but in less time than they could rebuild the good graces of the US?

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2012, 02:31:33 AM »
Israel depends on US foreign aid in great quantities, but even more than that, money from US Jews sent as charity and investments. Israel is not going to be attacked by Iran in any form other than verbally. Netanyahu and Amedinejahd BOTH use this constant trash talk to hold power. I have no use for either one of them.

Israel must never use those nukes unless attacked. Bombing any Israeli city would kill a huge amount of Palestinians as well as Jews.
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Re: Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2012, 06:38:31 AM »
"They will probably use tactical nukes to penetrate hardened IslamoNazi nuclear sites and the sooner the better!"

Yeah, they're going to use nukes to stop someone else from getting nukes. Jesus you're dumb.

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2012, 11:25:06 AM »
That would require enough smarts to outwit a donkey.
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Re: Nuclear Report On Iran Puts Israel in a Box
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2012, 12:35:16 PM »
  If their enemys were dead or sufficiently crippled , they would not need a lot of aid.

    That is the cheap out for the US.